How Long Does It Take a Ball to Hit the Ground If Thrown Downward?

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The problem involves determining the time it takes for a ball, thrown downward with an initial velocity from a specific height, to hit the ground. The context is rooted in kinematics, specifically dealing with motion under constant acceleration due to gravity.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the equation derived from the motion formula and question the validity of taking the square root of both sides. There are attempts to rearrange the equation into a standard quadratic form.

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Some participants have provided guidance on solving the quadratic equation, while others seek clarification on the components of the equation, particularly the meaning of the constant term. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to understand the problem better.

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There is an emphasis on correctly applying the quadratic formula and understanding the terms involved in the equation. Participants express uncertainty about their previous knowledge of quadratic equations and their application to the current problem.

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Homework Statement


A ball is thrown down with an initial velocity of 2.0 m/s from a height of 1.75 m, determine how long until it hits the ground.

initial velocity = 2 m/s
distance = 1.75 m
acceleration = 9.8 m/s2
time = ?

Homework Equations


d=vit+1/2a(t)2

The Attempt at a Solution


1.75=2t + 1/2(9.8)t2
1.75=2t + 4.9t2
Square root of both sides?
1.32 = 1.4t + 2.21t
1.32 = 3.61t
All divided by 3.61?
t = 0.36
... I know the solution to be 0.43 seconds, but can't get there!

Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
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MRi04 said:

Homework Statement


A ball is thrown down with an initial velocity of 2.0 m/s from a height of 1.75 m, determine how long until it hits the ground.

initial velocity = 2 m/s
distance = 1.75 m
acceleration = 9.8 m/s2
time = ?

Homework Equations


d=vit+1/2a(t)2

The Attempt at a Solution


1.75=2t + 1/2(9.8)t2
1.75=2t + 4.9t2
Square root of both sides?
That is where you went wrong...
Solve this as a quadratic equation.
 
MRi04 said:

Homework Statement


A ball is thrown down with an initial velocity of 2.0 m/s from a height of 1.75 m, determine how long until it hits the ground.

initial velocity = 2 m/s
distance = 1.75 m
acceleration = 9.8 m/s2
time = ?

Homework Equations


d=vit+1/2a(t)2

The Attempt at a Solution


1.75=2t + 1/2(9.8)t2
1.75=2t + 4.9t2
Square root of both sides?
1.32 = 1.4t + 2.21t
1.32 = 3.61t
All divided by 3.61?
t = 0.36
... I know the solution to be 0.43 seconds, but can't get there!

Any help is greatly appreciated!
In your solution,you took square root of both sides which is incorrect.Instead,solve the quadratic equation formed in t.You will get the time taken.
 
Thanks RUber and Ellispson, really appreciate it, can you give any more detail, I'm not sure how to do that?
 
If you have an equation of the form : At^2 + Bt + C = 0, then
##t = \frac{ -B \pm \sqrt{B^2 - 4AC}}{2A}##
Only one of the solutions will be a positive time...choose that one.
 
RUber said:
If you have an equation of the form : At^2 + Bt + C = 0, then
##t = \frac{ -B \pm \sqrt{B^2 - 4AC}}{2A}##
Only one of the solutions will be a positive time...choose that one.

but what does C represent in the quadratic equation? Sorry, it has been a long time since I have used the quadratic equation.
 
MRi04 said:
but what does C represent in the quadratic equation? Sorry, it has been a long time since I have used the quadratic equation.
I mean, what does it represent in terms of the problem I posted?
 
You have 1.75 = 2t + 4.9t^2 . Can you put that into the form of At^2 + Bt + C = 0? C is the number that is not multiplied by t or t^2...I get -1.75.
 
MRi04 said:
I mean, what does it represent in terms of the problem I posted?
The constant term.Which means the term not having the variable t in it.
 
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RUber said:
You have 1.75 = 2t + 4.9t^2 . Can you put that into the form of At^2 + Bt + C = 0? C is the number that is not multiplied by t or t^2...I get -1.75.
Oh of course, I see. I'll try that now
 
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That worked for me! Thanks very much to both of you. Happy physics-ing!
 
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