How Long Should I Cook Two Small Christmas Puddings Instead of One?

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The discussion revolves around the cooking time for two small Christmas puddings compared to one large pudding, exploring the relationship between cooking time, volume, and surface area. Participants share insights and personal experiences related to cooking and heat transfer, while seeking a straightforward answer without complex formulas.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that cooking time may not be linear and proposes experimenting with cooking frozen dinners as a potential analogy.
  • Another participant mentions the importance of heat transfer and the potential need to adjust oven temperature when cooking multiple items.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about whether cooking time should be based on volume, surface area, or a combination of both.
  • A participant shares a personal anecdote about the challenges of cooking multiple pies and the necessity of separate crust batches.
  • There is a light-hearted exchange about cooking skills and personal experiences, with no technical claims being definitively established.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the exact relationship between cooking time and the size of the puddings. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the factors influencing cooking time.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various factors that could influence cooking time, such as heat transfer dynamics and oven characteristics, but do not resolve these complexities.

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Hello everyone, new member here:smile:.

My sister asked me this today - real-life physics at work!

She's making Christmas pud & the instructions say it takes 8 hours to cook. However, her bowls are too small, so she's made two little ones instead, and she asked how long to allow to cook them (you're not meant to disturb/ examine them while they're cooking). I guessed six hours.

I don't need any complicated formulae, just the ratio of cooking times; is it proportional to the volume, or the surface area:confused:? I have a degree in pure maths , but was always rubbish at physics. I remember there are different types of heat transfer, but please just keep it simple. You can pretend the puds are spherical.

Thanks

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This isn't definitive, but you might want to experiment with it a bit. The type of frozen dinners that the wife bought last time come 2/box. Cooking 1 in the microwave takes 2 minutes, and cooking 2 takes 3 1/2 minutes. The same ratio might apply in your situation (ie: a little one takes about 60% as long as a big one).
On the other hand, a conventional oven (which I assume that she's using) might suffer the same effect as a nuker, wherein the available energy must be equally distributed among 2 items. If that's the case, then 2 little ones in the oven at the same time might take just as long as one big one.
Why don't you try melting various sizes of ice blocks or something similar and record the results? That might give you a handle on it.
Sorry that I can't be more helpful.
 
It's not complicated.
Go out quick and buy your sister a bigger bowl :smile:
After all there is pudding at stake :!)
 
Thanks for the fast replies, Danger and NoTime:smile:. Danger, yes, I reckon you're about right but I probably won't have time to try the ice thing; I came on this physics forum in case these are well-known results. Ditto to NoTime, I'd worked that one out for myself:biggrin:!

Thanks anyway & further contributions welcome.

X=7
 
There might be a formula that's applicable, but I'm not aware of one. The time should be based upon volume and surface area combined in some way. There are only so many calories available to heat the volume, but how close most of it is to the surface should determine how long it actually takes. When I get home, I'll try to work something out.
Anyhow, even if we don't manage to nail this one down for you, please hang around the site now that you've discovered it. You won't regret it.
 
Danger said:
The time should be based upon volume and surface area combined in some way.
That is what my instinct is telling me, but happy to be proved wrong:-p.

Danger said:
Anyhow, even if we don't manage to nail this one down for you, please hang around the site now that you've discovered it. You won't regret it.
Thanks for the friendly introduction, will do!:smile:

X=7
 
There's a lot of factors.
Transfer time is important.
A big thick roast takes more time to cook due to the distance to the center, but you also want to adjust the temp somewhat so the outside doesn't get overdone while the center is still raw.

If you're cooking two small bowls of pudding, instead of one big one, then the oven temp may need to be raised to get the same thermal gradient as well as shortening the time.

Two pies in the oven cook much the same as one.
A regular oven won't get loaded down like a microwave.
Ovens have a big thermal mass.

OTOH, I have never succesfully doubled a pie crust recipe. Comes out bad! So if I want more than one pie, I have to make separate batches for the crust.
 
NoTime said:
So if I want more than one pie, I have to make separate batches for the crust.
You cook?! And all this time, I only loved you for your mind. :!)

Hey! Wait a minute here... aren't you a guy?

Crap! Now I'm going to have to buy W cooking lessons...
 
Danger said:
You cook?! And all this time, I only loved you for your mind. :!)
Having a couple kids qualifies as the mother of invention. :smile:
Gave it up when they moved out and got places of their own.
Somthing about liking what I cooked and having no competition for the results resulted in an extra 40lbs.

Danger said:
Hey! Wait a minute here... aren't you a guy?
:smile: Now there is the proverbial spanner in the works. :smile:
I do have being female as a minimum partner requirement :biggrin:

Danger said:
Crap! Now I'm going to have to buy W cooking lessons...
Cooking is dangerous, count your blessings :wink:
 

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