How many men, women, and children are there?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a Diophantine equation related to counting the number of men, women, and children in a group, represented by the variables x, y, and z. The equations provided include 3x + 2y + 0.5z = 100 and x + y + z = 100, leading to a derived equation of 5x + 3y = 100.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the Diophantine equation 5x + 3y = 100 and expresses confusion about the resulting inequalities for t. Some participants question the setup and the derivation of the equations, while others clarify the equations involved.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications about the equations and others noting the existence of multiple solutions. There is recognition of the original poster's confusion regarding the inequalities and the integer solutions.

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The original poster acknowledges having posted the problem previously, indicating a potential lack of clarity or understanding in the initial approach. There is an emphasis on finding positive integer solutions without fractional or negative values.

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Homework Statement
Solve the puzzle-problem below:
Alcuin of York, 775. One hundred bushels of grain are distributed among 100 persons in such a way that each man receives 3 bushels, each woman 2 bushels, and each child 1/2 bushel. How many men, women, and children are there?
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Proof: Let x be the number of men, y be the number of women
and z be the number of children.
Then we have 3x+2y+0.5z=100
such that x+y+z=100.
Note that x+y+z=100 gives us z=100-x-y.
Substituting this result into 3x+2y+0.5z=100 and multiplying it
by 2 produces: 5x+3y=100.
Consider the Diophantine equation 5x+3y=100.
Applying the Euclidean Algorithm produces:
5=1(3)+2
3=1(2)+1
2=2(1)+0.
Now we have gcd(5, 3)=1.
Note that 1##\mid##100.
Since 1##\mid##100, it follows that the Diophantine equation
5x+3y=100 can be solved.
Then we have 1=3-1(2)
=3-1(5-3)
=2(3)-1(5).
This means 100=100[2(3)-1(5)]
=200(3)-100(5).
Thus, xo=200 and yo=-100.
All solutions in the integers are determined by:
x=200+(3/1)t=200+3t for some integer t,
y=-100-(5/1)t=-100-5t for some integer t.
Therefore, x=200+3t and y=-100-5t.
To find all solutions in the positive integers of the
Diophantine equation 5x+3y=100, we solve for t:
x=200+3t##\geq##0 ##\land## y=-100-5t##\geq##0
t##\geq##-200/3 ##\land## t##\leq##-20.

Now I'm stuck. I know I need to combine these two inequalities and solve for integers t in order to find the solution. But it seems like after I solve the inequality, I found out that the integers t are negative values. Can anyone please find where my mistake(s) are in this problem? Thank you.
 
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Math100 said:
I'm sorry for this, I totally forgot that I've already posted this problem before, but may I know how you got the Diophantine equation 3x+2y=100? Because as you can observe from above, I've got 5x+3y=100.
That tells you something important about ##y##.
 
Math100 said:
but may I know how you got the Diophantine equation 3x+2y=100?
That was a typo. It's ##5x + 3y = 100##. Or, ##3x + 2y + 0.5z = 100##.

In any case, ##5x + 3y = 100## tells you something about ##y##.
 
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PeroK said:
There are lots of solutions.

Good, I thought I was missing something here. I get seven different solutions assuming no fractional or negative people.
 
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