How Many Rotations Does Circle B Make Inside Circle A?

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The problem involves two circles, A and B, where circle B is inside circle A and tangent to it. The task is to determine how many rotations circle B makes around its own center while revolving around circle A without slipping.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the rotations of circle B and the fixed position of circle A, questioning how the rotations are counted when considering both circles' movements.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the effect of circle A's fixed position on the rotation count of circle B. Some guidance has been offered, including suggestions to visualize the problem through sketches.

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There is some confusion regarding the implications of circle A being stationary and how that affects the total rotations of circle B. Participants are also reflecting on their assumptions about the motion of both circles.

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1.Consider a circle A of radius 3 and a circle B of radius 1.The circle B is inside A and tangent to A. The circle B rotates so that,without slipping, it revolves once about A in the clockwise sense. Find the number and sense of rotations of B.
 
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For number 1, I was thinking that when B revolves clockwise,A will also rotate by the same distance,so i was thinking that the answer will be 1.5 times and counterclockwise because then B will have traveled 3pi and A will also have traveled 3pi which adds up to the circumfrence of A..but the answer turn out to be two times which i do not get.
 
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wataru611 said:
For number 1, I was thinking that when B revolves clockwise,A will also rotate by the same distance,so i was thinking that the answer will be 1.5 times and counterclockwise because then B will have traveled 3pi and A will also have traveled 3pi which adds up to the circumfrence of A..but the answer turn out to be two times which i do not get.

I don't think you are supposed to take A to rotate at all. Picture it fixed. The edge of B traces out a path that's 3 times its circumference and it rotates counterclockwise. But while it's doing that its center rotates once clockwise around the center of A. What's the total rotation of B about its center? Try sketching a picture.
 
um..thanks Dick..but i do not quite get the significance of its center rotateting once clockwise around the center of A. Wont B still rotate 3 times if A is not moving at all?..Why will be B rotating twice? Thank you so much
 
wataru611 said:
um..thanks Dick..but i do not quite get the significance of its center rotateting once clockwise around the center of A. Wont B still rotate 3 times if A is not moving at all?..Why will be B rotating twice? Thank you so much

If a circle rotates 3 times counterclockwise and then you twist it back one turn clockwise, don't you get rotation two times? The rotation of the center of B around the center of A is also turning B. I'm not sure words explain it very well. Again, sketch a picture.
 
Thanks Dick I just tried it with two coins..and you that's the case,but it is still a bit counterintuitive..haha.i think i need some more time to totally get it but you thank you!
 

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