How many subgroups of size 5 in A_6 have cyclic elements?

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The discussion revolves around finding the number of subgroups of size 5 in the alternating group A_6, focusing on the properties of cyclic groups and elements of order 5.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the number of subgroups of size 5, noting that these must be cyclic due to the prime size. They raise a question about the relationship between the number of elements of order 5 and the subgroups.
  • Another participant questions the nature of the intersection between two subgroups of order 5.
  • One participant suggests a method of dividing the number of elements of order 5 by 4 to find the number of distinct subgroups, based on the properties of 5-cycles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of subgroup structure and element order. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between elements and subgroups, but no consensus has been reached on the final count of subgroups.

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There is a focus on the properties of cyclic groups and the implications of subgroup intersections, with an emphasis on the uniqueness of elements of order 5 within subgroups.

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I need to find the number of subgroups of size 5 in A_6.


I have started by noting that as the subgroup size is 5, a prime, the subgroups must be cyclic. I have worked out that there are 144 elements of order 5 in A_6, but this can't be equal to the number of subgroups (i found two subgroups which have the same elements in!). Someone please help!
 
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If two subgroups of order 5 intersect, can you describe the intersection?
 
Ok, I have noticed that <a> = <a^2> = <a^3> = <a^4> for all a in A_6 where a is a 5-cycle. So this means that the number of elements of order 5 must be divided by 4. Hence the answer is 144/4 = 36 subgroups of size 5 in A_6.
Is this correct?
 
alex07966 said:
Ok, I have noticed that <a> = <a^2> = <a^3> = <a^4> for all a in A_6 where a is a 5-cycle. So this means that the number of elements of order 5 must be divided by 4. Hence the answer is 144/4 = 36 subgroups of size 5 in A_6.
Is this correct?

Yes, every subgroup of order 5 contains four of them and no element of order 5 is contained in two different subgroups.
 

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