How much do theoretical and experimental physicist get paid

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The discussion revolves around the salaries of theoretical and experimental physicists, exploring factors that influence pay such as geography, job type, and industry versus academia. Participants share personal insights and statistics related to physicist salaries in various regions, including the US and Turkey.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that salaries for physicists vary significantly based on geography, with higher wages in urban areas compared to smaller regions.
  • One participant references statistics indicating that the median salary for physicists 5-10 years post-PhD in the US is around $88K, but questions the reliability of the source.
  • Living costs are highlighted as a crucial factor when comparing salaries across different locations, with examples provided of housing prices and property taxes in various areas.
  • There is a suggestion that physicists generally earn enough to live comfortably, although this is not universally agreed upon.
  • A participant humorously points out the ambiguity in the original question regarding the distinction between theoretical and experimental physicists, suggesting that the salary range may not differ significantly between the two.
  • Another participant inquires whether salaries are typically higher for physicists in industry positions compared to academia.
  • A participant shares insights from Turkey, noting low salaries for professors but higher earnings in industry, and discusses the trend of graduates seeking opportunities abroad for better financial prospects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on physicist salaries, with some agreeing that geography and job type significantly influence pay, while others highlight the lack of clear distinctions between theoretical and experimental physicists. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall salary landscape for physicists.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various statistics and personal experiences, but there are limitations in the data presented, including potential biases in regional salary comparisons and the variability of living costs. The discussion does not resolve the differences in salary expectations between different types of physicists or across different countries.

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I like physics but i don't want to worry about having enough money to afford a house or an apartment and l like would like to eat out without a coupon.
 
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potato123 said:
I like physics but i don't want to worry about having enough money to afford a house or an apartment and l like would like to eat out without a coupon.
Yeah, we don't get paid that badly. Wages strongly depend on your geography. Here are the statistics for US PhD starting salary -- the first job out of a PhD. https://www.aip.org/statistics/employment/salaries Here are some numbers for jobs in the US throughout your career. I don't know how reliable this website is. http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Physicist/Salary median for 5-10 years post PhD is 88K.

A good exercise would be to take a look at job advertisements for the kind of job you'd like to do.
 
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e.bar.goum said:
Wages strongly depend on your geography.

So do living costs, of course. You have to take those into account when comparing salaries in, say, the NYC and SF areas with smaller places in the Midwest or South. Where I live, you can get a 3br2ba house in a nice (not ritzy) neighborhood for $180,000, and property taxes are about $1000 per year.
 
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jtbell said:
So do living costs, of course. You have to take those into account when comparing salaries in, say, the NYC and SF areas with smaller places in the Midwest or South. Where I live, you can get a 3br2ba house in a nice (not ritzy) neighborhood for $180,000, and property taxes are about $1000 per year.
Of course. And you can't buy a house the size of a postage stamp for that much in Australia, but wages are much higher for postdocs than they are in the US.

But I think it's fairly safe to say that physicists get paid enough to live comfortably, in general.
 
So when I read the title of this thread ("how much do theoretical and experimental physicist get paid"), it reminded me of the account that comedian Kathy Griffin gave during one of her performances where she attended a Celine Dion concert in Vegas. She said that at one point during the concert, Celine Dion said "This next song is dedicated to all the parents in the audience... and also the children". Kathy Griffin then looked at her audience and asked "That's like... EVERYONE, isn't it?"

So when I see this question about how much money theoretical and experimental physicists make, my initial reaction was "Doesn't that cover ALL physicists?" One could have just easily asked "How much money does a physicist make?"

Of course, there is another possibility that the OP wants to know if there is a difference in income between "theoretical" and "experimental" physicists. But as has been pointed out already, there is such a spread in salary already due to different job types, levels, and locations, that I can't see any clear demarcation of salaries between the two disciplines. Besides, one may be trained in one or the other, but in practice, physicists tend to do some of each in many cases.

Zz.
 
Are salaries usually higher for industry positions?
 
in turkey professors get paid terribly (around 5-6k in liras which is less than 2k$ but they also work in industry they say that they get 4 times of their salary. a decent house in a decent place is 350-400k). our graduates mostly get a phd in usa or western europe and work there. they say that they are quite happy with their salaries, they can live easily also save some money. (a euro is 3,3 liras a dollar is more than 3 liras) if they ever return they they return as a rich man. most of my professors worked in usa before. if you want to be a physicist don't do it for the money but if you work for it you can have a decent life. also if you live in a country like mine go work abroad for 10-15 years you will have an exciting life.
 

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