How much electricity can be produced from 3000 rpm?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of generating electricity from a car's axle designed with magnetic properties and copper wire casing, particularly in the context of electric vehicles and energy recovery. Participants explore the feasibility of this idea, its implications for energy efficiency, and existing technologies related to energy recovery in vehicles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a magnetic axle with copper wire could produce electricity and questions the amount generated, proposing it could enhance the range of electric cars by converting kinetic energy back into electrical energy.
  • Another participant points out that energy extraction would slow the car down, referencing the concept of regenerative braking as an existing technology that achieves this energy recovery.
  • A later reply acknowledges the initial idea but emphasizes that energy conservation principles imply that energy cannot be extracted without affecting the car's performance.
  • One participant warns against discussing over-unity mechanisms or perpetual motion, indicating that such concepts are not permitted in the forum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of generating electricity from a car's axle. While some acknowledge the potential of the idea, others clarify that it is already implemented in regenerative braking systems. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of energy generation and the implications of resistance in the proposed system.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference existing technologies like regenerative braking but do not reach a consensus on the specifics of the proposed idea. There are also mentions of limitations regarding discussions of perpetual motion and over-unity mechanisms, which are deemed outside the scope of acceptable topics.

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If your axel in you car was magnetic with copper wire casing would that produce electricity? If so how much?
If there is no resistance in that process then there wouldn't be a detrimental effect on the performance (bar added weight of the wire)
With the raising popularity of electric cars it would reconvert some of the kenetic energy back into electrical energy. Therefore increase the range?
There is probably a easy answer that will shoot this down, or its already in place but though it was a interesting idea.
 
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Tom1211 said:
If your axel in you car was magnetic with copper wire casing would that produce electricity?
One of the magical things about cars and electricity, is that this already happens.
If so how much?
Whatever the system is designed for.
If there is no resistance in that process...
There is always resistance. So the rest of your post, is, um, based on a false premise.
then there wouldn't be a detrimental effect on the performance (bar added weight of the wire)
With the raising popularity of electric cars it would reconvert some of the kenetic energy back into electrical energy. Therefore increase the range?
There is probably a easy answer that will shoot this down, or its already in place but though it was a interesting idea.

Worded differently though, you might be onto something.
 
OmCheeto said:
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Worded differently though, you might be onto something.

billy_joule said:
...is called regenerative braking

That's the different wording, I was looking for. :angel:
 
Tom1211 said:
If your axel in you car was magnetic with copper wire casing would that produce electricity? If so how much?
If there is no resistance in that process then there wouldn't be a detrimental effect on the performance (bar added weight of the wire)
With the raising popularity of electric cars it would reconvert some of the kenetic energy back into electrical energy. Therefore increase the range?
There is probably a easy answer that will shoot this down, or its already in place but though it was a interesting idea.
Welcome to the PF, Tom. :smile:

We don't allow discussions of Over-Unity mechanisms or Perpetual Motion Machines (PMMs) here at the PF. In addition to the useful responses you have gotten, please have a look at the links mentioned in the PF Rules Forbidden Topics list -- they will help you to understand why you cannot extract energy continuously from a system.

PF Forbidden Topics said:
Pseudoscience, such as (but not limited to):
Perpetual motion and "free energy" discussions
http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Free_Energy_Debunking
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion
http://www.skepdic.com/freeenergy.html
http://www.skepdic.com/perpetual.html
Thread is closed.
 
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