How Much Energy Is Needed to Move a 1kg Block Away from Earth?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the energy required to move a 1kg block from the surface of the Earth to a point very far away, where it will come to rest. The context is rooted in gravitational potential energy and work done against gravitational forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between initial and final energy states, questioning how to apply the equations for kinetic and potential energy. There is exploration of different forms of potential energy equations and their applicability in this scenario.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the equations to consider and confirming the validity of the approaches taken. There is a focus on understanding the initial conditions and how they relate to the final state of the block.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of gravitational potential energy and the implications of moving an object far from Earth, including the assumptions about energy states at different distances.

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Homework Statement



A 1kg block rests on Earth's surface. How much energy is required to move the block very far from the earth, ending up at rest again?

Homework Equations



U = -G(m1m2)/r
Uf-Ui= -W (W= work internal)
U=mgy


The Attempt at a Solution



I know that my final potential energy will be zero, and because the object ends at rest i can say my final kinetic energy will also be zero. Not sure where to go from here, or what equation to use.
 
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You are on the right track... as you say, the final total energy will be zero.
Can you also say something about the initial energy?
 
So assuming i use the equation Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui the left side of the equation goes to zero. I am then only left with my initial conditions, and my Ki = 1/2mv^2 and U=mgy..? or does U= -G (Mm)/r ...?
 
MillerGenuine said:
So assuming i use the equation Kf + Uf = Ki + Ui the left side of the equation goes to zero. I am then only left with my initial conditions,
Exactly.

and my Ki = 1/2mv^2
Where v is the initial velocity (which is ... ?)

and U=mgy..? or does U= -G (Mm)/r ...?
Yes. The whole idea is that they are the same at or very close to the surface of the earth. You can easily show this yourself, if you equate the two,
[tex]- \frac{G M m}{r} = m g r[/tex]
where r is the distance from the center of the earth, you can solve this for g:
[tex]g = - \frac{G M}{r^2}[/tex].
Just plug in the numbers for r at (or negligibly close to) the surface of the earth, at 6400 km from the center, and you will find a value very close to the usually quoted value of g = -9.81 m/s².
(This also explains the reason that g varies between different locations on earth: since the Earth is not a perfect sphere, its radius changes a bit from one point to another. It is a bit smaller at the poles, so g will be a bit larger there than at the equator).
 

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