How much is the angular acceleration?

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The problem involves calculating the angular acceleration of a disk given its mass, radius, and an applied force. The original poster also considers the effect of adding an additional mass to the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate angular acceleration using the moment of inertia and torque, while also exploring the implications of adding mass to the system. Some participants question the treatment of forces and the number of objects involved in the acceleration.

Discussion Status

Participants are discussing the complexities introduced by adding a mass and the distinction between translational and rotational acceleration. There is an acknowledgment of multiple forces acting on the system, and some guidance has been offered regarding the setup of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the wheel being fixed and the need to consider both the disk and the added mass in the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correct angular acceleration after adding the mass.

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Homework Statement



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the mass, M, of the disk is 20kg, the radius is r and the force applied, F, in the periphery of the disk is 9.8N. How much is the angular acceleration?

If I add a mass (m1) of 1kg to the thread what will be the angular acceleration?

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Homework Equations



I think those are relevant to my problem:
Moment of inertia of a disk: I=0.5*m*r^2
Torque=Force*radius*sin(tetha)
angular acceleration=Torque/Moment of inertia


The Attempt at a Solution



a) I=.5mr^2 ⇔I=2.5
Torque=9.8*0.5=4.9N*m
angular acceleration=4.9/2.5 = 1.96 rad/s^2

I think this one is correct

b) Since it was added another mass I tought that the total force would be F+T, tension being equal to the force of the mass*gravity (9.8). Then:
I=2.5
Torque=9.8N*m
angular acceleration=9.8/2.5=3.92 rad/s^2

The correct answer is 1.8 rad/s^2. any hints would be highly appreciated!

Thanks.
D.
 
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b) There are 2 objects to be accelerated. The mass and the wheel.
 
azizlwl said:
b) There are 2 objects to be accelerated. The mass and the wheel.
I forgot to mention the wheel is fixed.

D.
 
The mass has translational acceleration, the wheel has rotational acceleration.
The system has 2 objects, a wheel and a mass.
The system is now supplied with 2 forces.

For the first question, only one object and a single force applied.
 
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azizlwl said:
The mass has translational acceleration, the wheel has rotational acceleration.
The system has 2 objects, a wheel and a mass.
The system is now supplied with 2 forces.

For the first question, only one object and a single force applied.

Thank you very much!
 
Jalo said:
b) Since it was added another mass I tought that the total force would be F+T, tension being equal to the force of the mass*gravity (9.8). Then:
I=2.5

It is meant that you attach a mass of 1 kg to the cord, instead of applying the force of 9.8 N. The tension in the cord acts at the rim of the disk. the difference of gravity and tension accelerates the hanging object.

ehild
 

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