How Much Mass Required to Demonstrate Gravity?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on how to demonstrate gravity independent of Earth's gravitational influence, particularly in a space environment. Participants explore the minimum mass required for gravitational pull to be observable by the human eye, considering various experimental setups and conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that demonstrating gravity in space would require a significant mass, potentially at least planet-sized, to be visible to the naked eye.
  • Another participant references the historical use of a torsion balance for measuring gravitational forces, indicating that the human eye may not be a reliable instrument for such measurements.
  • A third participant calculates that two 10kg masses placed 1 meter apart in space could demonstrate gravitational attraction, estimating a time frame for their movement towards each other, while noting the challenge of keeping them stationary initially.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessary mass for visibility and the feasibility of demonstrating gravity in space. There is no consensus on the minimum mass required or the practicality of the proposed methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the challenges of achieving precise initial conditions for the masses and the limitations of human perception in measuring gravitational effects.

Roman Mithman
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If one were to demonstrate gravity independent of earth's constant gravity, how could it be done? Assuming this would need to be done in space, what minimum proportions of mass would be required to demonstrate gravitational pull to a human's naked eye?
 
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Two 10kg masses 1m apart in space and initially at rest would collide fairly quickly. Setting ##s=\frac 12\frac{GM}{r^2}t^2## gives an upper bound of about 8 hours (remembering each mass only needs to travel ##s=0.5\mathrm{m}##).

Of course, you need to arrange that the masses are initially stationary to better than 0.01mm/s, which is non trivial.
 
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If it needs to be in space, far from the earth, and you need to see it with the unaided eye, it needs to be at least planet-sized. (Note that this is independent of measuring gravity)
 

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