How Much More Energy to Accelerate a Car from 30 to 60 km/h?

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The discussion revolves around the energy required to accelerate a car from 30 km/h to 60 km/h, particularly in relation to the energy needed to accelerate from 0 km/h to 30 km/h. The problem is situated within the context of kinetic energy and its calculation using the formula K = 1/2 mv^2.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and velocity, questioning the reasoning behind the energy comparison between different speed intervals. Some express confusion over the calculations and the implications of acceleration on energy requirements.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering insights into the correct approach for calculating the differences in kinetic energy. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding the energy comparisons, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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There appears to be some misunderstanding regarding the application of the kinetic energy formula and the interpretation of energy differences between speed intervals. The discussion highlights the need for clarity on how to properly calculate changes in kinetic energy.

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Homework Statement


The chemical potential energy in gasoline is converted to kinetic energy in cars. If a car accelerates from zero to 60 km/h, compared to the energy necessary to increase the velocity of the car from zero to 30 km/h the energy necessary to increase the velocity of the car from 30 to 60 km/h is:


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K = 1/2 mv^2

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I approached this problem in a conceptual manner. If we are to compare the energy from 0 to 60, it wouldn't matter if we go 0 to 30 or 30 to 60 since acceleration is not factored in. Thus it would be the same. However, the correct answer is 3 times as great. How is this possible?
 
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brake4country said:
I approached this problem in a conceptual manner. If we are to compare the energy from 0 to 60, it wouldn't matter if we go 0 to 30 or 30 to 60 since acceleration is not factored in. Thus it would be the same. However, the correct answer is 3 times as great. How is this possible?
You have to compare the energy required to bring the car from 0 km/h to 30 km/h, versus the energy required to take it from 30 km/h to 60 km/h.
 
So, that would be K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m; and then K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m. This makes no sense!
 
brake4country said:
So, that would be K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m; and then K = 1/2 m (30)^2 = 450 m. This makes no sense!
Of course, if you're calculating the same thing twice, you get the same number :wink:

I guess that you are putting in the second equation (60 - 30)2 for the velocity, but that is not correct. What you need to calculate is the difference in kinetic energy,
$$
K(v = 30\ \mathrm{km/h}) - K(v = 0\ \mathrm{km/h})
$$
compared to $$
K(v = 60\ \mathrm{km/h}) - K(v = 30\ \mathrm{km/h})
$$

To be clear, ##\Delta K \neq \frac{1}{2} m (\Delta v)^2##.
 

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