How Much Must John Pay the Bank if He Returns the Loan in Full in 6 Months?

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The discussion revolves around a loan repayment scenario involving John, who has taken out a loan of 3000 dollars with specific payment terms and an interest rate. Participants explore how much John would need to pay if he repays the loan in full after 6 months and 1 year, as well as the formula to calculate these amounts.

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Main Points Raised

  • John's loan details include a total repayment amount of 4,427 dollars and 59 cents after 60 months, with a yearly interest rate of 15.99 percent.
  • Some participants question the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the interpretation of the interest rate as either annual effective or monthly compounded.
  • One participant provides a detailed breakdown of the loan balance after 6 months, calculating it to be 2790.17 dollars based on the monthly payments and interest accrued.
  • There is a suggestion that if different answers are obtained, it may indicate a different treatment of the interest rate, possibly involving simple interest.

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Participants express disagreement regarding the clarity of the problem statement and the interpretation of the interest rate. While one participant calculates the balance after 6 months, others question the initial setup of the problem.

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There are unresolved assumptions about the nature of the interest rate and how it should be applied in the calculations. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the correct interpretation of the problem.

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John took out a loan for 3000 dollars. The bank made a payment plan of 60 months at 73.80 for 59 months and then 73.40 for the final month. The cost of his credit as a yearly rate is 15.99 percent. After 60 months (5 years), John will owe the bank a total of 4,427 dollars and 59 cents. If John pays the loan in less than 5 years, the amount he must pay the bank will NOT be 4,427 dollars and 59 cents.

A. How much must John pay the bank if he returns the loan in full in 6 months?

B. Same as A for 1 year.

C. Is there a formula to work out parts A and B? If so, what is that formula?

Thank you.
 
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nycfunction said:
John took out a loan for 3000 dollars. The bank made a payment plan of 60 months at 73.80 for 59 months and then 73.40 for the final month. The cost of his credit as a yearly rate is 15.99 percent. After 60 months (5 years), John will owe the bank a total of 4,427 dollars and 59 cents. If John pays the loan in less than 5 years, the amount he must pay the bank will NOT be 4,427 dollars and 59 cents.
A. How much must John pay the bank if he returns the loan in full in 6 months?
B. Same as A for 1 year.
C. Is there a formula to work out parts A and B? If so, what is that formula?
Sorry, but that problem as stated does not make sense.
Can you ask someone familiar with English to help you post it properly? Thank you.
Important is the rate: is it 15.99 annual effective, or .1599/12 monthly.
 
Wilmer said:
Sorry, but that problem as stated does not make sense.
Can you ask someone familiar with English to help you post it properly? Thank you.
Important is the rate: is it 15.99 annual effective, or .1599/12 monthly.

Sorry but the words are not my own. I found this problem online but cannot remember the site.
 
Well, whoever "arranged" the problem simply didn't know what he/she was doing...

IF the payment is 73.80 and the rate is 15.99% annual cpd. monthly,
then what is owing after 6 months is THE ACTUAL BALANCE OWING AFTER 6 PAYMENTS:
Code:
  MONTH    PAYMENT    INTEREST    BALANCE
    0                             3000.00
    1       -73.80       39.97    2966.17
    2       -73.80       39.53    2931.90
    3       -73.80       39.06    2897.16
    4       -73.80       38.61    2861.97
    5       -73.80       38.14    2826.31
    6       -73.80       37.66    2790.17
So answer = 2790.17
IF anything else is given as answer, then the interest rate is treated
slightly differently (perhaps simple interest)...
 
Wilmer said:
Well, whoever "arranged" the problem simply didn't know what he/she was doing...

IF the payment is 73.80 and the rate is 15.99% annual cpd. monthly,
then what is owing after 6 months is THE ACTUAL BALANCE OWING AFTER 6 PAYMENTS:
Code:
  MONTH    PAYMENT    INTEREST    BALANCE
    0                             3000.00
    1       -73.80       39.97    2966.17
    2       -73.80       39.53    2931.90
    3       -73.80       39.06    2897.16
    4       -73.80       38.61    2861.97
    5       -73.80       38.14    2826.31
    6       -73.80       37.66    2790.17
So answer = 2790.17
IF anything else is given as answer, then the interest rate is treated
slightly differently (perhaps simple interest)...

This makes sense.
 

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