How much of an iceberg is beneath the surface Archimedes principle

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The discussion revolves around determining how much of an iceberg is submerged beneath the surface of the ocean, using Archimedes' principle. The problem involves the densities of ice and salt water, and participants are exploring the relationship between these densities and the submerged volume of the iceberg.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions how to approach the problem without specific values for area and mass. Some participants suggest manipulating unknown quantities as variables to find a solution. Others propose writing an equality based on known densities and volumes.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and guidance on how to relate the volumes of ice and water. There is a recognition that certain quantities will cancel out, and a focus on the relationship between the densities and the submerged fraction of the iceberg is emerging.

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The discussion highlights that the problem does not provide specific area or mass values, which raises questions about how to proceed with the calculations. Participants are considering how to express the submerged volume in terms of fractions and ratios.

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How much of an iceberg is beneath the surface...Archimedes principle

Homework Statement


Calculate how much of an iceberg is beneath the surface of the ocean, given that the density of ice is 917kg/m^3 and salt water has density 1025kg/m^3.


Homework Equations



archimedes principle: buoyancy = to the weight of the displaced fluid

The Attempt at a Solution


How can you do this when you're not given area and mass of the iceberg? Can someone guide me with this question?
 
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Those quantities you don't need will cancel out. It's often hard to see this right away, the best thing to do is to just start solving it manipulating the unknown quantities as variables and just hope for the best.

In this case, you should write out an equality for what you do know.
A hint... The volume of the water should be some fraction of the volume of the ice. (x*V) for example would be the volume of the water, where x is the fraction, and V is the volume of the ice.
 


Density ice/density water = volume water/volume ice

is that rite?
 


Yes that is exactly right.
The reason I said to look at the volume of water as x*V, because then you can see that (volume of water)/(volume of ice) is equal to the submerged fraction of the ice.
Volume of water = x*V
Volume of ice = V
(volume of water)/(volume of ice) = x
and x is the fraction of the ices volume that when multiplied gives you the waters volume. Therefore x is equal to the submerged portion of the ice.

So (Density of ice)/(Density of water)
is exactly the quantity you were looking for.. Also, if you multiply by 100 then you get the value as a percentage of the total volume that is submerged.
 

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