How much of the reflected sound is heard by person A?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the Doppler effect and sound frequency as it relates to reflections. The original poster attempts to calculate how much of the reflected sound is heard by person A, considering various velocities and the Doppler's equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Doppler's equation to find frequencies at different points (A, B, D, C) and question the correctness of their calculations. There is a specific request for clues regarding the third attempt at a solution and discussions about beat frequency.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide feedback on the application of equations and suggest looking into beat frequency for further insights. Multiple approaches to the problem are being explored, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the various attempts.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of needing additional relevant equations and the potential for confusion regarding the relationships between the frequencies calculated. The original poster's attempts indicate a complex interplay of sound frequencies and velocities that may not be fully resolved.

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Homework Statement



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2. Homework Equations

Doppler's Equation

The Attempt at a Solution


(1)[/B] freqA = (v sound - vA )/(v sound - v B) . freq B
*v A = 0 (static)
= V/(V - v) . freq B ...Answer : (d)

(2) freq A hear which is reflected sound by D
first find freq D, *v D, v A = 0 (static)
freq D received from B = (v sound - v D) / (v sound + v B) . freq B
freq D = V / (V + v) . Freq B
freq A = (v sound - v A) / (v sound - v D) . freq D
freq A = V / V . freq D
freq A = V / (V + v) . Freq B ...Answer : (c)

(3) can someone give me clue about this one?

(4) freq C = (v sound + v C) / (v sound - v B) . freq B
freq C = (V + v) / V . Freq B... Answer : (a)

(5) freq A which reflected by D
freq D received from B = (v sound + v D) / (v sound - v B) . freq B
freq D = (V + v)/V . freq B
freq A received from D = (v sound - v A)/(v sound - v D). freq D
freq A = (V) / (V - v) . (V + v) / V . freq B
freq A = (V + v) / (V - v) . freq B ...Answer : (e)are the other numbers also in right way?
 
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Hello again,

I think you did fine applying the relevant equation you give.
Helly123 said:
(3) can someone give me clue about this one?
but for (3) you need another relevant equation involving the answers for (1) and (2). Easily found if you google beat frequency.
 
(3) f beat = absolute (f2 - f1)
F beat = absolute ( f reflected - Aa)
F beat = abs f(V / (V + v) ) - f( V/(V -v) )
F beat = abs fV(V-v) - (V + v) / (V^2 - v^2)
F beat= abs f.V(-2v)/(V^2 - v^2)
F beat = 2Vv / (V^2 - v^2).f
 
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