How Powerful Should My Compressor Be for a 3L/Day Atmospheric Water Generator?

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The forum discussion centers on determining the appropriate compressor power for a 3L/day Atmospheric Water Generator, utilizing principles similar to those in dehumidifiers. The user seeks guidance on calculating compressor power output based on a heat flow rate of 352.91 kJ/hour. Key topics mentioned include thermodynamics, specific heat capacity of air, and the refrigeration cycle. Participants emphasize the importance of revisiting thermodynamics concepts and suggest resources for further learning.

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  • Thermodynamics principles, particularly related to refrigeration cycles
  • Understanding of specific heat capacity of air
  • Familiarity with psychometric charts
  • Basic knowledge of compressor types and their applications
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  • Review the Reverse Carnot Cycle and its application in refrigeration systems
  • Learn about the calculation methods for compressor power output
  • Explore resources on psychometric charts and their relevance in HVAC design
  • Investigate existing Atmospheric Water Generators for performance benchmarks
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Mechanical engineering students, HVAC professionals, and anyone involved in designing or optimizing Atmospheric Water Generators or similar systems.

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I'm working on a project to design Atmospheric Water Generator, to generate 3 litres of water per day. and I'm using the same concept as dehumidifier.
My problem is I want to figure out how powerful my compressor should be. I need to calculate that, given a heat flow rate of 352.91 kJ/hour. Anyone can lead me to the right direction.

Thanks.
 
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There is a lot of things to learn first
  • Specific Heat Capacity of Air
  • RH%
  • mass rate, etc.
  • Psychometric Chart
  • Compressors
  • Motors
  • Air conditioning
  • Thermodynamics
Given that you ask the forum on this, I assume you have no background and enough knowledge to tackle this problem.
Safety first, though common sense dictates. It is important that you and the life and risk of other people and damages on property are well anticipated from trials and experiments unmitigated by the appropriate knowledge and practice.

One thing, I could advice on you: get a proper degree in mechanical engineering and get a license after or simply consult a professional and let him do this job for you.
 
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The other option is to search for the ratings of existing products.
 
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Thanks for the reply, I'm doing a mechanical engineering degree, and this is a project I'm working on. I'm not concerned in assembling different parts together and coming up with result, but justifying why each component and calculating design numbers of each component. My problem is with the compressor. How do you calculate the power output, of a semi hermetically sealed compressor
 
What year are you in the degree of ME?
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Did your professor not taught you this?
 
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3rd year, I studied it, in my first year thermodynamics. Don't remember much about it now
 
Agreed. If you've already taken your first thermodynamics course, you should be able to diagram out the cycle and calculate every aspect of the performance.
 
salmansl said:
3rd year, I studied it, in my first year thermodynamics. Don't remember much about it now
That's a really serious problem. How can you expect to have a 30 year engineering career if you can't remember/apply what you learned two years ago?

You need to dig out your thermodynamics book from two years ago (I keep mine at my desk) and re-learn and start applying the stuff. We can help you along the way, but we can't do this project for you!
 
russ_watters said:
That's a really serious problem. How can you expect to have a 30 year engineering career if you can't remember/apply what you learned two years ago?

You need to dig out your thermodynamics book from two years ago (I keep mine at my desk) and re-learn and start applying the stuff. We can help you along the way, but we can't do this project for you!
I'm not asking you to do my project for me. Just asking for a point to the right direction.
 
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salmansl said:
3rd year, I studied it, in my first year thermodynamics. Don't remember much about it now
You better not remember it, but internalized everything you can. Mechanical Engineering is the most practical and easy to appreciate field among the engineering discipline, because it deals with macroscopic dynamic of things.

It is time for you to learn something new or review the past topics by research first and then query.
This is included in your Thermodynamics II.

I am afraid, that's the only point I can help you by now, answering in a forum is quite a hassle - I think you need a lecture not a Q&A session

See or search :
  • Reverse Carnot Cycle (Ideal) or Refrigeration/Vapor Cycle
 
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salmansl said:
I'm not asking you to do my project for me. Just asking for a point to the right direction.
Ronnie's post #5 provides an excellent starting point. Take a shot at it.
 
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russ_watters said:
Ronnie's post #5 provides an excellent starting point. Take a shot at it.
Yeah I will, and thanks a lot to both of you.
 
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salmansl said:
Yeah I will, and thanks a lot to both of you.
No problem, salmansl. You could see youtube, there's a lot of tutorials/refresher posted on this topics by now. Nowadays, learning is an easy thing, just a matter of initiative.
I see you have initiative and perseverance, I'm pretty sure you could get it done.
 
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You're welcome. We'll certainly be able to provide more specific help as you get into it. An additional hint though: I'm not sure where you got the 353 kJ/hr, but in real world engineering, establishing the design conditions/constraints is a significant part of the design process.
 
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