How should I show that all solutions are periodic?

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation of the form ## \ddot{x}+x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0 ##, focusing on the nature of its solutions, particularly their periodicity and stability. Participants explore the implications of the system being conservative and the role of turning points in the analysis of the solutions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of classical turning points and their significance in the context of the differential equation. Questions arise about the meaning of ## \dot{x}=y=0 ## and the implications of these points on the behavior of solutions. There is also exploration of the stability of fixed points and the nature of phase paths.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants actively questioning assumptions and clarifying concepts related to turning points and periodicity. Some have suggested that the fixed point at ## (0, 0) ## is a stable center, while others are examining the conditions under which solutions may be periodic.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the interpretation of turning points and the relationship between the equations involved. Participants are also reflecting on the implications of their findings and the potential for errors in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement
Consider the differential equation ## \ddot{x}+x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0,
\beta\geq 0 ##.

a) Show that all solutions are periodic.
b) Deduce whether or not these solutions are Poincare stable.
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Proof: a)

Consider the differential equation ## \ddot{x}+x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0 ##
for ## \beta\geq 0 ##.
By definition, the system of ## \ddot{x}+x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0 ## for
## \beta\geq 0 ## is conservative because ## \ddot{x}=f(x) ## such that ## f(x) ##
is a function of ## x ## only and can be integrated once to give
## \frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+V(x)=E ##, where ## E ## is a constant and ## f(x)=-V'(x) ##.
Then we have ## \ddot{x}+x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0\implies
\\dot{x}=-x-\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert ##, so we get
## f(x)=-V'(x)=-x-\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert ##.
This gives ## V(x)=-\int f(x)dx=\int (x+\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert)dx
=\frac{x^2}{2}+\frac{\beta}{2}x^3\operatorname{sgn}(x)+C ## where
## \operatorname{sgn}(x) ## is the signum function of the real variable ## x ##
defined as ## \operatorname{sgn}(x)=1 ## for ## x>0 ##,
## \operatorname{sgn}(x)=-1 ## for ## x<0 ##.
Hence, ## E=\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+V(x)=\frac{\dot{x}^2+\beta x^3\operatorname{sgn}(x)+x^2}{2}
=\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+\frac{1}{6}(3\beta x^2\lvert x \rvert+3x^2) ##.
Since ## \frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+V(x)=E\implies \frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+V(x)=C ##
where ## \dot{x}=y, \dot{y}=f(x) ##, it follows that ## \frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2=E-V(x)\implies
\dot{x}^2=2(E-V(x))\implies y=\pm\sqrt{2(E-V(x))} ##.
Thus, ## y=\pm\sqrt{2(E-V(x))}=\pm\sqrt{2(\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2+\frac{1}{6}(3\beta x^2\lvert x \rvert+3x^2))}
=\pm\sqrt{\dot{x}^2+\beta x^2(\lvert x \rvert-x\operatorname{sgn}))} ##.

From the work/proof shown above, how should I show that all solutions are periodic? Also for part b), how should I determine whether or not these solutions are Poincare stable?
 
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What are the classical turning points (ie, points where ##\dot x = 0##)? What can you say about the time required to move between those points?
 
I've got ## \dot{x}=y=0 ##. But what does this mean?
 
What are those points in ##x##. Are they finite?

What happens at those points? Does the solution just pause and continue through or does it turn around?
 
From the system of ## \dot{x}=y, \dot{y}=-x-\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert ##, after setting ## \dot{x}=y=0 ## and ## \dot{y}=-x-\frac{3}{2}\beta x\lvert x \rvert=0 ##, we get that the fixed point occurs at ## (x, y)=(0, 0) ## and is stable centre.
 
I was talking about the turning points, not the fixed point.
 
How should I find the turning points then?
 
Solve this:

Math100 said:
I've got ## \dot{x}=y=0 ##.
 
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Math100 said:
where ## \dot{x}=y,## ...
Thus, ## y=## ... ##\pm\sqrt{\dot{x}^2+\beta x^2(\lvert x \rvert-x\operatorname{sgn}))} ##.
Are you sure? If you replace ##y## in the second equation using the first equation and square both sides, ##\dot{x}^2## cancels and you're left with ##0=\beta x^2(\lvert x \rvert-x\operatorname{sgn}))##. Do you think that's true?
 
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renormalize said:
Are you sure? If you replace ##y## in the second equation using the first equation and square both sides, ##\dot{x}^2## cancels and you're left with ##0=\beta x^2(\lvert x \rvert-x\operatorname{sgn}))##. Do you think that's true?
Sorry, I think I've made some huge mistakes above from my initial/first post. The equation of the phase paths should be ## y=\pm\sqrt{2(C-V(x))} ## where ## \dot{x}=y, \dot{y}=f(x) ##. So I have ## y=\pm\sqrt{2(C-(\frac{x^2}{2}+\frac{\beta}{2}x^3\operatorname{sgn}(x)))} ## and ## y=0 ## for ## C=\frac{x^2}{2}+\frac{\beta}{2}x^3\operatorname{sgn}(x) ##. But how does this shows that all solutions are periodic?
 
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Orodruin said:
What are those points in ##x##. Are they finite?

What happens at those points? Does the solution just pause and continue through or does it turn around?
 

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