How to apply mathematics to real world problems?

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The discussion revolves around the application of mathematics to real-world problems, specifically focusing on measuring areas related to a parked car's tire and curb interaction. Participants explore practical examples of area calculations and the relevance of these measurements in real-life scenarios.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the practicality of measuring the area between a tire and a curb, expressing confusion over the application of mathematical equations to real situations.
  • Another participant suggests that measuring the tire's dimensions as an ellipse could provide a way to estimate the area, mentioning the need for numerical integration for more accuracy.
  • Some participants argue that calculating the area between the curb and tire may not be useful, while calculating the area of the tire in contact with the road could have practical implications, such as understanding braking distances.
  • A later reply proposes that the area in contact with the road, multiplied by the tire pressure, could relate to the weight of the car, hinting at a potential method for calculation.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance and practicality of measuring the area between the tire and curb. While some find it uninteresting, others suggest alternative measurements that may have practical applications. No consensus is reached on the best approach to these calculations.

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Participants note the importance of real applications for mathematical measurements, indicating that some examples may be more relevant than others. There is also mention of potential errors in measurements and the complexity of physical objects compared to abstract mathematical ideals.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in the practical applications of mathematics in everyday scenarios, particularly in physics and engineering contexts.

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Let's say I see a parked car, the tire of the car is resting against the curb. Would you actually have to go with a tape measure and measure the curb, measure the wheel and then you'd be able to find the area underneath the curb and the tire?

It's just confusing. Soooo many math equations just use variables. But when it comes to the real thing, I'm confused.
 

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uperkurk said:
Let's say I see a parked car, the tire of the car is resting against the curb. Would you actually have to go with a tape measure and measure the curb, measure the wheel and then you'd be able to find the area underneath the curb and the tire?

It's just confusing. Soooo many math equations just use variables. But when it comes to the real thing, I'm confused.

EDIT: I missed seeing that the question had a very specific diagram, and so the "example" I posted is an area problem unrelated the uperkurk's question (and accompanying diagram).

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Example:
An undetermined quantity of liquid material spilled. Estimate the area of the ground which the spilled material is covering, and calculate the length of absorbant roll material to cut in order to cover and absorb the spilled liquid material.

EDIT Again: My example seems more practical. The purpose of the area that the tire is covering of the curb is unclear, or at least seems not practicle. One could try to calculate or estimate this if he wanted.
 
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Yes. The wheel is probably closest to an ellipse. Measuring the major and minor axes of the wheel will be enough to determine the ellipse, or any 3 points on the boundary if the major/minor axes are unclear. You will, of course, inherit the error bounds of your measuring rod. To be any more accurate, you would have to do a numerical integration: literally measure the height of the wheel over different partition types to find upper and lower bounds for the area, which is the best we can do for physical objects that are not abstract ideals.
 
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What's your question?

Of course you can measure anything you want, but it helps if there's a real application.
There seems to be little point in calculating the area between curb and tire.
It becomes much more interesting if you try to calculate the area of rubber touching the road.
That may indicate for instance the distance it takes to brake to a stand still.
 
I like Serena said:
What's your question?

Of course you can measure anything you want, but it helps if there's a real application.
There seems to be little point in calculating the area between curb and tire.
It becomes much more interesting if you try to calculate the area of rubber touching the road.
That may indicate for instance the distance it takes to brake to a stand still.

Yeh that is something I didn't think of and probably would have been a better example. So how would one go about calculating the total surface area of the tire that is touching the curb
 
uperkurk said:
Yeh that is something I didn't think of and probably would have been a better example. So how would one go about calculating the total surface area of the tire that is touching the curb

Well, the area time the pressure in the tire should be equal to about a quarter of the weight of the car.
 

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