How to apply the Fourier transform to this problem?

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The problem involves applying the Fourier transform to a partial differential equation (PDE) of the form $$u_{tt}(x,t) + 2u_t(x,t) = -u(x,t)$$, which includes additional terms compared to a standard homogeneous heat equation. The context is set within the bounds of the real line for x and positive time t, with initial conditions specified for the function and its time derivative.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss taking the Fourier transform of the equation, with some suggesting to consider x as constant due to the lack of spatial derivatives. There is uncertainty about the treatment of constants in the Fourier transform and whether the transform should be applied with respect to x or t. Questions arise about the implications of the PDE's structure on the solution approach.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of how to proceed with the Fourier transform, with some participants suggesting that the problem may be simpler without it. Guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the equation and the potential for separation of variables, indicating a productive exploration of different methods.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the PDE does not contain derivatives with respect to x, leading to discussions about the implications for solving the equation. There is mention of the possibility of using Laplace transforms instead, given the initial value problem setup.

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Homework Statement
$$ u_{tt}(x,t) + 2u_t(x,t) = -u(x,t), -\infty < x < \infty, t> 0$$
$$u(x,t), as |x| \rightarrow \infty, t>0$$
$$u(x,0) = f(x), u_t(x,0)= g(x) , -\infty < x < \infty $$
Relevant Equations
Fourier Transform equation:
$$ \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi}} \int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(x) e^{iwx} dx $$
I am struggling to figure out how to approach this problem. I've only solved a homogenous heat equation $$u_t = u_{xx}$$ using a Fourier transform, where I can take the Fourier transform of both sides then solve the general solution in Fourier terms then inverse transform. However, since this question has extra terms I'm a little confused.$$ u_{tt}(x,t) + 2u_t(x,t) = -u(x,t), -\infty < x < \infty, t> 0$$
$$u(x,t), as |x| \rightarrow \infty, t>0$$
$$u(x,0) = f(x), u_t(x,0)= g(x) , -\infty < x < \infty $$
Any advice and or guidance would be greatly appreciated. All I would do is take the Fourier transform of all the terms but from there I don't think I know what to do.`
 
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Safder Aree said:
I am struggling to figure out how to approach this problem. I've only solved a homogenous heat equation $$u_t = u_{xx}$$ using a Fourier transform, where I can take the Fourier transform of both sides then solve the general solution in Fourier terms then inverse transform. However, since this question has extra terms I'm a little confused.$$ u_{tt}(x,t) + 2u_t(x,t) = -u(x,t), -\infty < x < \infty, t> 0$$
$$u(x,t), as |x| \rightarrow \infty, t>0$$
$$u(x,0) = f(x), u_t(x,0)= g(x) , -\infty < x < \infty $$
Any advice and or guidance would be greatly appreciated. All I would do is take the Fourier transform of all the terms but from there I don't think I know what to do.`
Try it and see what occurs to you when you look at the result.
Since there are no partials with respect to x, you can consider x constant and just look at the Fourier transform with respect to t.
 
tnich said:
Try it and see what occurs to you when you look at the result.
Since there are no partials with respect to x, you can consider x constant and just look at the Fourier transform with respect to t.

So my understanding is that then applying the transform leads to:

$$ -(2 \pi w)^2 \hat{u_t} + 4 \pi i w \hat{u_t} = - fourier(constant)$$

Is the Fourier of a constant a dirac delta function?
 
Safder Aree said:
So my understanding is that then applying the transform leads to:

$$ -(2 \pi w)^2 \hat{u_t} + 4 \pi i w \hat{u_t} = - fourier(constant)$$

Is the Fourier of a constant a dirac delta function?
##u(x,t)## is a function of t, so I don't think it should be constant.
 
tnich said:
##u(x,t)## is a function of t, so I don't think it should be constant.

Oh no you're right,

$$ -(2 \pi w)^2 \hat{u_t} + 4 \pi i w \hat{u_t} = - \hat{u}(x,t)$$
Would that be right? Where would I go from here?
 
Safder Aree said:
Oh no you're right,

$$ -(2 \pi w)^2 \hat{u_t} + 4 \pi i w \hat{u_t} = - \hat{u}(x,t)$$
Would that be right? Where would I go from here?
Wouldn't it be
$$ -(2 \pi w)^2 \hat{u} + 4 \pi i w \hat{u} = - \hat{u}$$
?
 
I have worked it through. I think it actually makes a lot more sense to do the Fourier transform with respect to x. That gives you a differential equation in t that is easy to solve. Once you have that solution, you can apply the boundary conditions and transform back. It does seem to me that you could do this problem more easily without the Fourier transforms.
 
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Safder Aree said:
I am struggling to figure out how to approach this problem. I've only solved a homogenous heat equation $$u_t = u_{xx}$$ using a Fourier transform, where I can take the Fourier transform of both sides then solve the general solution in Fourier terms then inverse transform. However, since this question has extra terms I'm a little confused.$$ u_{tt}(x,t) + 2u_t(x,t) = -u(x,t), -\infty < x < \infty, t> 0$$
$$u(x,t), as |x| \rightarrow \infty, t>0$$
$$u(x,0) = f(x), u_t(x,0)= g(x) , -\infty < x < \infty $$
Any advice and or guidance would be greatly appreciated. All I would do is take the Fourier transform of all the terms but from there I don't think I know what to do.`

As written the PDE contains no derivative with respect to x, so it is effectively an uncountable number of uncoupled linear constant coefficient first order ODEs and there is no need to do any transforms (although as it's an initial value problem for the t dependence one could in principle solve it by Laplace transforms).
 
The Fourier transform of a step function is ##\frac 1 {j \omega} + \pi \delta(\omega)##
 
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There is no differentiation with respect to x, so a simple separation of variables works.
Furthermore, the equation is homogenous with respect to t and the function can be written as ##(u(x,t) = exp(-st) f(x)##, Substitute that into the equation and you get the following
##(s^2 - 2s +1)f(x) = 0## and that gives you s = 1.
So the solution to the equation is
##u(x,t) = exp(-t)f(x) = exp(-t)u(x,0)##
No need for Fourier transform.
 

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