How to build a qubit (theoretically)?

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The discussion revolves around the theoretical construction of a qubit, exploring various aspects such as the effective Hamiltonian, physical systems for qubit implementation, and the relationship between classical bits and qubits. Participants address both theoretical and experimental considerations, as well as the mathematical framework involved in modeling qubits.

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  • One participant mentions the need to include the effective Hamiltonian and its derivation for charge qubits, referencing specific literature.
  • Another participant describes a qubit as a two-dimensional quantum system and emphasizes the importance of implementing unitary transformations on both single and pairs of qubits.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the question is primarily experimental, noting the lack of knowledge regarding the fabrication of quantum dots and the extensive literature available on the topic.
  • One participant humorously proposes a method involving a student flipping a coin to emulate a qubit, but this is challenged as being a classical bit rather than a true qubit.
  • There is a discussion about the probabilities associated with measuring a qubit's state, with some participants affirming that repeated measurements yield probabilities for the states 0 and 1.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of using the complex Hilbert space to model a qubit and emphasizes that reading a qubit is not the only operation possible.
  • One participant clarifies that the Schrödinger equation governs the time evolution of the wave function, not the Hamiltonian itself, which must be known beforehand.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of qubits, the relationship between classical bits and qubits, and the role of the Schrödinger equation in determining time evolution. There is no consensus on the best approach to model or build a qubit theoretically, indicating multiple competing views.

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Some claims rely on specific definitions of qubits and classical bits, and there are unresolved questions regarding the experimental aspects of qubit construction and the mathematical details of the Hamiltonian's time evolution.

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My professor leaves me guidance on my dissertation and he instructs me to include the method of building a qubit theoretically.And I have no idea what it is at all.
And I was asked to include the deviation and the inherent process of the effective Hamiltonian of the charge qubit and the equation as well. And some of the derivation of the Hamiltonian as well. P.S The effective Hamiltonian formula is from the reference of :

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323562386_Qubits_based_on_semiconductor_quantum_dots
 
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Well, a Qubit is "simply" a two dimensional i.e. two "state" quantum system. You would have to describe what physical system you wish to theoretically use and how to implement all of the possible unitary transformations on that system in a controlled fashion. Since a lone qubit isn't worth much I would suppose you will need to also implement coherent transformations on a pair of such qubits, reading and writing their "quantum state" etc. Basically how to implement all the unitary transformations on a two qubit system with emphasis on those which correspond to classic logical operations, state exchanges and reading and writing.
 
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I don't need to theoretically build a Qubit, because for the theorist it's enough to state: "consider an arbitrary two-level system". To the contrary the question is entirely experimental, and I don't know the details, how real-world quantum dots are really fabricated. There must be a plethora of literature about this since quantum dots are a hot topic in condensed-matter physics for several years (if not decades).
 
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You can employ another PhD student, hide him in a black-box with a coin (suitably rigged or not) and let him flip the coin. The output will be the same as output of some two-state quantum system, assuming the coin and the system state probabilities are the same.
That is how to create QuStudent emulating one QuBit. What the student is doing between your observations, you don't know.
To emulate a system of two QuBits is easy, just flip the coin two times. If you want qubits entanglement, just tell the student to flip once, observe the outcome and put the opposite outcome on the second (entangled) qubit.
 
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Subluna said:
That is how to create QuStudent emulating one QuBit.

No, it isn't. What you describe realizes a classical bit, not a qubit. You cannot model quantum interference phenomena this way.
 
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PeterDonis said:
No, it isn't. What you describe realizes a classical bit, not a qubit. You cannot model quantum interference phenomena this way.
How to model just one qubit?
ok, this QuStudent is not enough for performing real quantum computation,
but I assume that reading a qubit we get 0 or 1, with corresponding probabilities. Is it true?
Doing this N times (or using N students simultaneously) we get roughly N1 state 0 and N2 state 1, N1+N2 =N ?
 
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Subluna said:
How to model just one qubit?

With the complex Hilbert space ##\mathbb{C}^2## and the appropriate operators on it.

Subluna said:
I assume that reading a qubit we get 0 or 1, with corresponding probabilities.

Yes. But "reading a qubit" is not the only thing you can do with a qubit.

Subluna said:
Doing this N times (or using N students simultaneously) we get roughly N1 state 0 and N2 state 1, N1+N2 =N ?

Not using N students simultaneously, because the task was to build just one qubit, not N of them.

Reading the one qubit N times, yes. But again, just reading the qubit N times is not the only thing you can do. Your model has to include all the things you can do with the qubit, not just reading it.
 
Actually , my professor just clarified that he wants me to express the time evolution of the Hamiltonian under the Schrödinger equation (time - depended) and how to simulate it using analytical tool such as Matlab
 
WAAAGH said:
the time evolution of the Hamiltonian under the Schrödinger equation (time - depended)

The Schrödinger Equation doesn't determine the time evolution of the Hamiltonian. It determines the time evolution of the wave function. The Hamiltonian's time evolution, if any, has to be known in advance and plugged into the equation.
 

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