How to Calculate Car Acceleration from Power and Speed?

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The problem involves calculating the acceleration of a car given its mass, speed, and the power supplied by its engine. The context is within the subject area of dynamics and power in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various approaches to relate power, force, and acceleration. Some express confusion over the use of time in the calculations, while others suggest using derivatives of kinetic energy. There is also a debate about the correct interpretation of power in relation to force and velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between power, force, and velocity, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to solve the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a given time variable, which complicates the calculations. There is also a mention of the need to consider additional forces such as air resistance and friction, although these are not quantified in the problem statement.

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Homework Statement



A car of mass 840.0 kg accelerates away from an intersection on a horizontal road. When the car speed is 37.4 km/hr (10.4 m/s), the net power which the engine supplies is 4300.0 W (in addition to the extra power required to make up for air resistance and friction). Calculate the acceleration of the car at that time.

Homework Equations



Work=Force*Distance

Power=Work/Time

Force=Mass*Acceleration

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried numerous ways of solving this problem and remain unsuccessful. My closest attempt was using the equation Power=Kinetic Energy/Time, I used the velocity as Kinetic Energy to find the time and plugged that into the Kinematic equation Vf=Vi+a*d but that did not work either. Please help me!
 
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Do you know some calculus?
It looks like a calculus problem to me.
You can't use Power = KE/time: consider the situation where the car is moving at zero acceleration and a large speed. The power required ("extra" not counted as stated in problem) is zero but the KE is large.

Instead, you should use Power = dE/dt, the derivative of kinetic energy with respect to time. The differentiation is not difficult, but does involve the chain rule.
 
yes I do know calculus, I am in Calc 2 but I still don't follow.
 
M= 840.0 kg
P= 4300.0 W
v= 10.4 m/s

s = v*dt [you are working with power (which is watt per second). what should dt be?]

gives s

p = w/dt

gives w

w = f*s

gives f

f = m*a
 
how am I supposed to find dt when I am not given a time
 
As I recall power is equal to force times velocity.

Units of Watts = N-m/s

P = F*V

So the instantaneous power is given as 4300 w and the velocity is 10.4 m/s.

That makes F = 4300/10.4 doesn't it?

And you have the mass, so ...
 
i thought that power was equal to F*V but if you do the math it delivers units of Kg*m/s and not Kg*m/s2. maybe I am using the wrong velocity?
 
Watt = J/s = kgm2/s3 = Nm/s

So it works out just fine. :)
 
Oh, clever to remember P = Fv !

Just for interest, I was thinking of P = dE/dt = d/dt(.5mv^2) = .5m*2v*dv/dt = mva
which is the same as P = Fv.
 

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