How to Calculate Earth’s Number Density: Iron vs Proton Mass Method

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The discussion revolves around methods for calculating the number density of Earth, specifically debating whether to use the mass of iron or the mass of a proton as a basis for this calculation. Additionally, there is a query about the implications of a small black hole passing through Earth and its interaction with matter.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether to assume Earth is mostly iron for calculating number density or to use the average particle mass of a proton.
  • Another participant provides a specific density value from a source but is corrected that this is density, not number density.
  • A participant clarifies that number density refers to the number of particles per volume and seeks to determine the best particle to use for calculations, suggesting iron, protons, or electrons.
  • One participant suggests that without considering specific minerals, a mean number density could be calculated, proposing that silicate (SiO_3) might serve as a reasonable starting point due to the abundance of oxygen and silicon in the Earth's crust.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate basis for calculating number density, with no consensus reached on whether to use iron or proton mass. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the black hole's mean free path and its potential interactions with Earth.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about Earth's composition and the definitions of density versus number density. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in calculating the mean free path of the black hole.

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I was wondering what is the best way to calculate the number density of earth? Should we assume that the Earth is mostly Iron and calculate the N from there or should we assume the average particle mass is the mass of a proton?

Also if a small black hole is created on Earth and makes one passage through Earth how can we calculate the mass it sweeps up? I calculated the mean free path of this black hole created from two protons colliding and I get a mean free path that is extremely large >>>>>> the diameter of earth. Does this mean the black hole will not interact with anything and go right through earth? I am not quite sure about this because don't black holes oscillate?
 
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Planters99 said:
I was wondering what is the best way to calculate the number density of earth? Should we assume that the Earth is mostly Iron and calculate the N from there or should we assume the average particle mass is the mass of a proton?
Or you could Wiki it: 5.5153 g/cm³
 
That is density not number density. Number density is number of particles over volume and basically my question is what is the best particle to use for the Earth Iron? Proton? Electron?
 
Without looking at specific minerals, the best you could calculate would be a mean number density. Oxygen and silicon are the most abundant elements in the Earth's crust, so silicate (SiO_3) might give you a reasonable starting point for a rough calculation.
 

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