How to Calculate Expectation Value Using Trace?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of an operator using a density matrix in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the trace operation involving matrices.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the concept of taking the trace of a matrix and its implications for calculating expectation values. Questions arise regarding the transition from matrix form to numerical results.

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Some participants offer clarifications about the properties of the trace and its additive nature. There is a recognition of the simplification that occurs when dealing with matrices, and one participant expresses understanding after receiving guidance.

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There is an emphasis on the need for clarity regarding the definitions and operations involved in the trace, particularly when transitioning from bra-ket notation to matrix representation.

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Homework Statement

How do I get the expectation value of operator [itex]\sigma[/itex] using density matrix [itex]\rho[/itex] in a trace: [itex]Tr\left(\sigma\rho\right)[/itex]

I have [itex]\sigma[/itex] and [itex]\rho[/itex] in matrix form but how do I get a number out of the trace?
 
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cscott said:

Homework Statement




How do I get the expectation value of operator [itex]\sigma[/itex] using density matrix [itex]\rho[/itex] in a trace: [itex]Tr\left(\sigma\rho\right)[/itex]

I have [itex]\sigma[/itex] and [itex]\rho[/itex] in matrix form but how do I get a number out of the trace?

I am not sure I follow your question. Do you know what it means to take the trace of a matrix?
 
I do if it involves just a bra and ket

i.e. [tex]Tr\left(|a><b|\right) = <b|a>[/tex]

I've been shown [itex]<\Lambda> = Tr\left(\Lambda\rho\right)[/itex]

But I have rho and lambda in matrix form and not as a product of bra's and ket's
 
The trace is additive, so

[tex] \mathrm{Tr}\left( \sum_i | a_i \rangle \langle b_i| \right) = \sum_i \mathrm{Tr}\left( | a_i \rangle \langle b_i| \right)[/tex]

If you have a matrix, this greatly simplifies. It's just the sum of the diagonal entries.
 
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Hurkyl said:
The trace is additive, so

[tex] \mathrm{Tr}\left( \sum_i | a_i \rangle \langle b_i| \right) = \sum_i \mathrm{Tr}\left( | a_i \rangle \langle b_i| \right)[/tex]

If you have a matrix, this greatly simplifies. It's just the sum of the diagonal entries.

Ahh I remember that now.

So I just take the matrix product [itex]\Lambda\rho[/itex] and then sum the diagonal entries to compute the trace?
 
I got the correct answer. Thanks guys.
 

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