How to calculate forces in a looping

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This discussion focuses on calculating the forces acting on an object moving through a looping, specifically for a prototype design involving an RC car. Key formulas include the centrifugal acceleration formula, v²/R, where v is the velocity in meters/second and R is the radius in meters. The minimum speed required to complete the loop is determined by ensuring that v²/R exceeds gravitational acceleration (g = 9.81 m/s²). Additionally, the discussion addresses the need to calculate the maximum diameter of the looping based on weight and speed combinations, as well as the forces exerted on the looping's construction.

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  • Understanding of centrifugal acceleration and its formula v²/R
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This discussion is beneficial for designers, engineers, and hobbyists involved in prototype development, particularly those interested in physics applications for RC vehicles and stunt designs.

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needless to say I'm a physics-challenged person but as a designer, I'm finally confronted with the science part of life :smile:

I want to have an estimate-calculation on the forces that will act on a looping if I have an object of x kilograms moving at y speed hits a looping with z diameter.
I haven't got a clue where to start and trial/error testing is too expensive.

What I want to know is what formula's I can use in order to retreive the following info:
- minimum speed for object (object weight could vary) to complete the looping (different diameters)
- maximum diameter of looping for weight/speed combination
- forces that act on the looping's construction (in order to build a prototype)

think of it like an RC car doing 'Hotwheels" stunts ...

I appreciate any help with links, formula's, ...
 
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Well, what will help you is that the centrifugal acceleration of an object having a velocity v (in meters/second) on a track with radius R (meters) is given by v^2/R

Now, on top of the track, this centrifugal acceleration points upward of course, while the gravitational acceleration g points downward ; so if you want the thing to be sticking to the road, then you better have that v^2/R > g.

g = 9.81 m/s^2
 
thanks Vanesh !

do you know how I could use the centrifugal acceleration to calculate the force on the ramp/looping itself? I want to build a prototype but would like some insight on how tough I need to make the construction.
Also, I kind of expect that the object will not have a smooth transition from horizontal movement to the upwards looping, so is there a way to calculate the impact it will have if it 'hits' the looping-curve?

again, thanks for the input you already gave. I forgot how interesting this physics/math stuff is ... will pick it back up real soon.
 

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