How to Calculate Heat of Combustion and Heat Transfer in a Furnace?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the heat of combustion and heat transfer in a furnace using a natural-gas fuel mixture. Participants explore the implications of temperature changes during combustion and the correct application of thermodynamic principles, specifically Hess's Law, in their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the exit temperature of the gases (600°C) reflects the reaction temperature, suggesting that the reaction may not occur at this elevated temperature.
  • Another participant confirms the initial query, indicating that the heat released at 25°C minus the heat loss raises the product temperature to 600°C.
  • There is a question about whether nitrogen combusts with oxygen, with a participant asserting that nitrogen does not react.
  • A participant proposes a method for calculating the heat of combustion using the heats of formation of the components, but another participant suggests a different approach involving the heat of reactions for methane and ethane.
  • One participant describes changing the basis of their calculations from 1 mole to 100 moles, expressing uncertainty about the necessity of this adjustment in relation to the problem's requirements.

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Participants express differing views on the combustion process and the role of nitrogen, as well as the methods for calculating the heat of combustion. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing approaches and interpretations present.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the correct methodology for the calculations, and there are varying interpretations of the problem's requirements and the role of nitrogen in the combustion process.

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Homework Statement


A natural-gas fuel contains 85 mol-% methane, 10 mol-% ethane, and 5 mol-% nitrogen.
a) What is the standard heat of combustion (kJ mol-1) of the fuel at 25°C with H2O(g) as a
product?
b) The fuel is supplied to a furnace with 50% excess air, both entering at 25°C. The products
leave at 600°C. If combustion is complete and if no side reactions occur, how much heat
(kJ mol-1 of fuel) is transferred in the furnace?


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The Attempt at a Solution


For this problem, I am unsure if in general, the exiting temperature is the reaction temperature. I mean, initially the gases are at 25 C, but when they exit they are 600C. That doesn't mean it reacted at 600 C, the result of the reaction just happened to be that temperature increase, right?
 

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Maylis said:

Homework Statement


A natural-gas fuel contains 85 mol-% methane, 10 mol-% ethane, and 5 mol-% nitrogen.
a) What is the standard heat of combustion (kJ mol-1) of the fuel at 25°C with H2O(g) as a
product?
b) The fuel is supplied to a furnace with 50% excess air, both entering at 25°C. The products
leave at 600°C. If combustion is complete and if no side reactions occur, how much heat
(kJ mol-1 of fuel) is transferred in the furnace?


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


For this problem, I am unsure if in general, the exiting temperature is the reaction temperature. I mean, initially the gases are at 25 C, but when they exit they are 600C. That doesn't mean it reacted at 600 C, the result of the reaction just happened to be that temperature increase, right?

Yes. You have the right idea. I didn't check every last detail of what you did, but you certainly knew to use Hess's Law. The heat given off by the reaction at 25C minus the heat loss from the reactor is enough to raise the temperature of the products from 25C to 600C.

chet
 
Does nitrogen combust with oxygen?

Also, is my part (a) correct? A friend of mine is trying it my doing .85ΔHf,methane + .10ΔHf,ethane + .05ΔHf,N2 - ΔHf, CO2 - ΔHf,H2O(g)
 
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Maylis said:
Does nitrogen combust with oxygen?

Also, is my part (a) correct? A friend of mine is trying it my doing .85ΔHf,methane + .10ΔHf,ethane + .05ΔHf,N2 - ΔHf, CO2 - ΔHf,H2O(g)
The N2 does not react.

I don't follow what your friend did, but in part (a) you should have taken 0.85 times the heat of reaction 1 plus 0.10 times the heat of reaction 2. There is no change in the enthalpy of the N2 at 25C.

In part (b), I really like the way you did it. That's what I would have done.

Chet
 
Yes, I did that. Once you get the answer to the heat of combustion to part (a), you just add up the sensible heat changes. However, I actually changed my basis from 1 mol in part (a) to 100 moles in part (b), so I went back, changed the basis to 1 mol, and multiplied all the values I got for the sensible heats of the species by the number of moles coming out of the reactor.

It gives the right answer, but I was a little shaky why I had to do that. It seems like it has to do with the wording based on the fact that its per mole of fuel.
 
Maylis said:
Yes, I did that. Once you get the answer to the heat of combustion to part (a), you just add up the sensible heat changes. However, I actually changed my basis from 1 mol in part (a) to 100 moles in part (b), so I went back, changed the basis to 1 mol, and multiplied all the values I got for the sensible heats of the species by the number of moles coming out of the reactor.

It gives the right answer, but I was a little shaky why I had to do that. It seems like it has to do with the wording based on the fact that its per mole of fuel.
Yes. That's correct.

Chet
 

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