How to calculate mechanic power a person outputs?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mechanical power output of a person, specifically a singer, based on given parameters such as airflow, pressure difference, and sound pressure level. The scope includes theoretical calculations and practical applications in acoustics.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving a singer's airflow and pressure, seeking to calculate mechanical and acoustic power as well as acoustic efficiency.
  • Another participant states that mechanical power in airflow can be calculated as pressure times volumetric flow rate.
  • A different participant notes that the output of intercostal muscles is likely much lower than the output of leg muscles, suggesting that estimates should be conservative.
  • A later reply confirms that the formula for mechanical power provided is the needed solution for the original problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method for calculating mechanical power, but there is no consensus on the expected output levels from different muscle groups.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the actual mechanical power output of intercostal muscles compared to leg muscles, indicating a need for careful estimation.

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Hey all,

I am doing some work to brush up my acoustics and one of the problems I came across this goes like this (translated, so sorry for potential grammar mistakes although I'll do my best to avoid them):

A singer exhales 0.1 Litre Air per second. The 'overpressure' (pressure difference, so not absolute pressure) of his lungs is 1257 Pa. On 1 meter from his mouth the soundpressurelevel is 70 dB. We assume a point source (so Q=1).
- Caculate the mechanical output power of the person.
- Calculate the acoustic output power of the person.
- Calculate the acoustic effeciency.

So, I know how to do the last 2 parts:

L_p = L_w - 10*log(Q/(4*pi*r^2)) is the equation I'll use for this problem.

r = 1, Q = 1, so: L_p = L_w - 11dB
Which means
L_w = 70 dB + 11 dB = 81 dB
L_w = 10*log(W/W_0) --> W = (10^-12)*(10^8.1) = 0.1259 mWatt
This is the acoustic ouput power. The answer sheet says this is correct.
The effeciency would simply be: (acoustic power/mechanic power)*100%.

But this is where I am stuck. How do I calculate the mechanic power with the given values?
Thanks for reading!
 
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Mechanical power in airflow is just pressure times volumetric flow rate.
 
Bearing in mind that our strongest (leg) muscles can only manage a few hundred W mean, you can expect much much less than that from your intercostal muscles. Ball park figures can be good when trying to make estimates of this sort of thing. Then consider that an efficient loudspeaker can be deafening with a couple of W.
 
russ_watters said:
Mechanical power in airflow is just pressure times volumetric flow rate.
This is the one I needed to get the right answer it seems!
Thanks :-)
 
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