How to calculate the moment of inertia of a rectangular cuboid?

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To calculate the moment of inertia of a rectangular cuboid, the formula involves integrating the mass distribution, specifically using the expression I_{zz} = ∫ dm (x^2 + y^2). The term "remnant" refers to the mass-averaged distance squared from the z-axis, denoted as \overline{(x^2 + y^2)}. It is clarified that the cuboid's dimensions are defined by the inequalities |x| ≤ a, |y| ≤ b, and |z| ≤ c, indicating that the axes pass through the center of mass and are perpendicular to the faces. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding the distinction between the mean of squares and the square of the mean in the context of calculating moments of inertia.
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Homework Statement
My task is to calculate the moment of inertia of a homogenous rectangular cuboid around the z-axis, so ##I_{zz}##. We know, that ##|x| \le a##, ##|y| \le b## and ##|z| \le c##.
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##I_{zz}=M({x^2}+{y^2})## ....there should be \overline above ##x^2## and ##y^2##, but it doesn't work here...
In my textbook, a hint is the formula above, which can be used when we have a homogenous body. ##M## is the body's mass, but what does the remnant mean?
 
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Does the z-axis pass through the CM of the cuboid? Are the principal axes perpendicular to the faces?
What do you mean by remnant?
Can you set up the triple integral ##~I_{zz}=\int dm~(x^2+y^2)~##?

Please show what you tried that "doesn't work."
 
kuruman said:
Does the z-axis pass through the CM of the cuboid? Are the principal axes perpendicular to the faces?
What do you mean by remnant?
Can you set up the triple integral ##~I_{zz}=\int dm~(x^2+y^2)~##?

Please show what you tried that "doesn't work."
Well, in the task there is written only that ##|x| \le a##, ##|y| \le b## and ##|z| \le c##. I don't understand what it means. But I suppose that all axes go through its CM and that its faces are perpendicular to x,y,z.

By the "remnant" I mean that \overline ##x^2## and \overline ##y^2##. I think it should be calculated somehow via triple integrals, but I don't know why the formula above is valid.
 
Lotto said:
Well, in the task there is written only that ##|x| \le a##, ##|y| \le b## and ##|z| \le c##. I don't understand what it means.
It means that ##-a \le x\le +a##, ##-b \le y\le +b## and ##-c \le z\le +c##. This means that you have a cuboid of dimensions (2a)×(2b)×(2c) with the origin of the Cartesian axes at the center of the cuboid.
Lotto said:
By the "remnant" I mean that \overline ##x^2## and \overline ##y^2##. I think it should be calculated somehow via triple integrals, but I don't know why the formula above is valid.
The expression that you call "remnant" is the mass-averaged distance squared from the z-axis, $$\overline{(x^2+y^2)}=\frac{\int(x^2+y^2)~dm}{\int dm}=\frac{1}{M}\int(x^2+y^2)~dm.$$ Since ##~I_{zz}=\int dm~(x^2+y^2)##, it follows that $$I_{zz}=M\overline{(x^2+y^2)}.$$ BTW, \overline works fine here as you can see. Use
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##\overline{(x^2+y^2)}##
 
Lotto said:
But I suppose that all axes go through its CM and that its faces are perpendicular to x,y,z.
Yes.

Lotto said:
By the "remnant" I mean that \overline ##x^2## and \overline ##y^2##. I think it should be calculated somehow via triple integrals, but I don't know why the formula above is valid.
When you say "\overline", it seems that you mean x bar and y bar. e.g. ##\bar{x}^2 + \bar{y}^2##. Here, x bar (##\bar{x}##) denotes the mean value of ##x## and similar for y bar.

Unfortunately, the mean of a set of squares is not equal to the square of the mean. Nor is the weighted average of a set of values equal to the average value multiplied by the average weight. [A moment of inertia is a sort of weighted average of a set of mass elements where the square of the radius is used as part of the weight]

We can try a quick test: The mean of 1 and 3 is 2. Squared, that is 4. The mean of ##1^2## and ##3^2## is 5. Four is not equal to five.

In addition, if we have a cuboid centered on the origin then it is clear that ##\bar{x} = \bar{y} = 0##. So the idea of using those in the correct formula is a non-starter.
 
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Lotto said:
By the "remnant" I mean that \overline ##x^2## and \overline ##y^2##.
That’s a curious use of the word. Remnant means that which remains; leftovers. Perhaps you are thinking of some other word?
 
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