Calculating Average Molecular Weight and Equilibrium Constants for Gas Mixtures

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average molecular weight of a gas mixture consisting of nitrogen dioxide and dinitrogen tetroxide, as well as determining the equilibrium constant and related thermodynamic properties. Participants explore various equations and methodologies for these calculations, including mole fractions and the ideal gas law, while addressing issues related to experimental data and assumptions.

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  • One participant proposes using the equation M(mix)=X(NO2)M(NO2)+ X(N2O4)M(N2O4) to compute the average molecular weight, but questions arise about the accuracy of the mole fractions and the values being used.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the variables and units being used, questioning the meaning of certain terms like ni, nf, and x, and the context of the provided data.
  • There is a suggestion that the volume measurement may be incorrect, as one participant points out that a density over 120 g/mL seems implausible for gases.
  • Participants discuss the need for clarity regarding the experimental setup, including the mass of the bulbs and the gas, and how to accurately calculate the volume based on the mass of water displaced.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of treating each bulb's data separately rather than averaging values across bulbs, as per the guidelines from a linked document.
  • There are repeated requests for more detailed information about the experimental conditions and data to better understand the calculations being attempted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and agreement on the methodology for calculating the average molecular weight and equilibrium constants. There is no consensus on the accuracy of the initial calculations or the interpretation of the data, leading to ongoing confusion and debate.

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Participants highlight limitations related to unclear definitions of variables, potential inaccuracies in volume and mass measurements, and the need for more comprehensive data to support the calculations. The discussion reflects the complexity of gas mixtures and the challenges in applying theoretical equations to experimental data.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers working on gas mixtures, thermodynamics, or related experimental chemistry topics, particularly those interested in the calculations of molecular weights and equilibrium constants.

  • #31
x + y = 1
92.011 x + 46.0055 y = 77.4395

x= -y + 1
92.011 (-y +1) + 46.0055 y = 77.4395
-92.011 y + 92.011 + 46.0055 y = 77.4395
-46.0055 y + 92.011= 77.4395
-46.0055 y = -14.5715
y = 0.316734
1- y = x
x = 0.683266

To find the degree of dissociation I did this:

n(N2O4)=77.4395/92=0.841 mol

degree dissociation: x(N2O4)/n(N2O4)= 0.683266/0.841= 0.812445= 81.24%


To find Kp I did:

n(N2O4)=77.4395/92=0.841 mol
n(NO2)= 77.4395/46=1.683 mol

Kp= n(N2O4)/(n(NO2))^2= 0.841/(1.683)^2= 0.296912

I think to find delta G standard I'd want to use this equation: delta G= -RTlnKp

and for delta S: delta S= delta G/T

Did I go about any of that right or is that not what I'm suppose to do?
 
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  • #32
tag16 said:
y = 0.316734
1- y = x
x = 0.683266

Looks OK.

To find the degree of dissociation I did this:

n(N2O4)=77.4395/92=0.841 mol

degree dissociation: x(N2O4)/n(N2O4)= 0.683266/0.841= 0.812445= 81.24%

So you have calculated composition of the mixture only to ignore it now and not use the information in following calculations?
 
  • #33
Is this right? If not I don't know how to find it.

PV = nRT --> n =PV/RT--> n = (1 − α)n + 2αn = PV/RT

α = (PV/nRT)− 1
 
  • #34
tag16 said:
n = (1 − α)n + 2αn

You have two different n in this equation - on the left, total number of moles after reaction took place, on the right - initial number of moles.

You know molar fractions of both gases present. Calculate numbers of moles of both. Use stoichiometry of the reaction to calculate initial number of moles of gas. Use definition of dissociation degree.
 

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