How to calculate the solid angle of a cone with cone axis arbitrary?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the solid angle of a cone with an arbitrary central axis, particularly when the cone's axis is aligned horizontally along the y-axis instead of the vertical z-axis. Participants explore the implications of this orientation on the integration boundaries and the use of spherical coordinates for such calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using spherical coordinates to calculate the solid angle of a cone with a vertical axis but questions how to set up the integration boundaries when the axis is horizontal.
  • Another participant proposes choosing a different coordinate system to align with the cone's orientation, implying that this could simplify the calculation.
  • A participant raises the concern that spherical coordinates may only be effective for shapes symmetric about the z-axis, questioning their applicability for other orientations.
  • Further discussion indicates that if a shape is symmetric around the x or y axis, it may be easier to integrate using a different coordinate system rather than spherical coordinates.
  • One participant notes that the ease of integration is subjective and depends on the chosen coordinate system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that using a different coordinate system may simplify the integration process for cones not aligned with the z-axis. However, there is no consensus on the necessity or implications of using spherical coordinates for such cases, indicating a lack of resolution on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of coordinate systems and the subjective nature of what constitutes "easy" in terms of integration. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps required for different orientations.

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I read that if the cone with apex angle 2α whose central axis is vertical, apex at the origin, then one can use spherical coordinate to calculate the solid angle of the cone

02∏0αsin\varphid\thetad\varphi

However, what if the central axis is align to y-axis horizontally, instead of z-axis.
My question is with angle 2α, if the central axis goes through (θ0, \varphi0), then how to set the intragation boundaries? It should give the same answer but I need to now how to set up the equation. Can one still use spherical coordinate?

Thank you so much if I get some help.


Charles
 
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I would simply choose a different coordinate system, to have the same orientation (but in the new system) again. No need to make it more complicated than necessary.
 
So does it mean spherical coordinate is only useful for calculating shapes/surface that's axially symmetric about z axis but not about x or y axis?
 
If something is symmetric around a different axis, I would choose a different coordinate system - a symmetry around the z-axis (which you can define as you like) is easier to handle in spherical coordinates.
 
Hi, mfb, so it's true that if a shape is only symmetric about x or y axis, it's not easy to integrate the surface area using spherical coordinate, unless one redefine the orientation of coordinate. Is that correct? Thank you.
 
That depends on your definition of easy, but it is certainly easier with a different coordinate system.
 

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