How to calculate the thickness of retaining ring

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the thickness of a retaining ring used in pressure seal bonnet valve design. Participants explore the forces acting on the ring due to working pressure and the complexities involved in determining its dimensions, considering various operational conditions and geometrical factors.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on calculating the thickness of the retaining ring, emphasizing its role in withstanding forces from working pressure.
  • Another participant requests additional details about the pressure sources and the valve body’s fixation to better understand the context.
  • A participant clarifies that the pressure acts in two directions, suggesting that bending stress and circumferential stress need to be considered in the calculations.
  • It is noted that due to the complex geometry of the retaining ring, simple formulas may not suffice, and reference to Roark's formulas for stress and strain is recommended.
  • A later reply indicates that the retaining ring must be made from spring material and highlights the importance of specifying the ring's structure and position to accurately determine its thickness.

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Participants express varying views on the factors influencing the retaining ring's thickness, with no consensus reached on a specific calculation method or formula. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed specifications for the retaining ring's structure and position, as well as the dependence on complex geometrical considerations that may not be fully addressed in the discussion.

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Hi,
I am working as a design engineer. I am new to pressure seal bonnet Valve design. In that valve concept we are using a ring called as Retaining ring. The purpose of this ring is to withstand the entire force acting on the bonnet due to is working pressure. Now i want to know how to calculate the thickness of that ring. Here i am attaching the Picture for your ref. Thanks in advance.
 

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Hi, Could you give more details regarding where the pressure is coming from (Mark with red color), also where the valve body is fixed to.
 
AeroGeek said:
Hi, Could you give more details regarding where the pressure is coming from (Mark with red color), also where the valve body is fixed to.
Hi AeroGeek, Thanks for your response, here i am attaching the picture for your ref i hope it will help you. In that Orange coloured component's thickness only we have to calculate. The Valve body can be used in many applications like piping. But the ring is fitted in the Valve body. My operating conditions are Pressure is 150 Class, and the diameter in the Gasket area is 7".
 

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Hi Saran,
The Pressure is acting in 2 direction if I'm right! the pressure through the shaft direction is exerting a bending stress on the retainer ring (SB), also the radial (S A) is acting circumferential, so ST = SB + SA. However due to the complex geometry, there are no simple formulas, please refer to Roark's formulas for stress and strain.
 
“capture.jpg” shows that the retaining ring will have to be made from a spring material with at least one cut so it can be compressed and installed into the groove. The ring is then retained in the groove by the valve body. The wedge shaped (gasket / pressure seal) is pushed up against the retaining ring.

Your pictures “capture.jpg” and “10e.jpg” show quite different load situations on the retaining ring. It is not possible to answer the thickness question unless the retaining ring structure and position can be fully specified.
 

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