How to create a parabolic formula - For Weight Loss

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The discussion revolves around creating a parabolic formula for target weight loss over a specified period, specifically from 100 kg on Day 1 to 67 kg on Day 112. Participants explore various mathematical approaches and express concerns regarding the feasibility and safety of such a weight loss plan.

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  • One participant requests assistance in creating a parabolic formula for weight loss, emphasizing a preference for non-linear equations over linear ones.
  • Another participant questions whether an exponential function might be more appropriate than a parabolic one, noting the importance of the basis for the non-linear term.
  • Concerns are raised about the aggressive nature of the proposed weight loss plan, suggesting that it may be dangerous and recommending a more gradual approach.
  • A mathematical perspective is provided, stating that a parabola has three degrees of freedom, but only two points are fixed, leading to multiple possible parabolas that could fit the criteria.
  • Some participants suggest that a logarithmic or exponential function could be used instead, with one providing a specific exponential decay formula as a potential solution.
  • There is a discussion about the practicality of tracking weight loss daily, considering the natural fluctuations in weight and the limitations of typical scales.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the appropriateness of using a parabolic formula versus other mathematical functions like exponential or logarithmic. There is no consensus on the best approach, and concerns about the safety of the proposed weight loss plan remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations regarding the assumptions made about weight loss rates and the precision of weight measurements, which could affect the validity of any proposed formula.

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How to create a parabolic formula
Hello all

I was hoping someone can help with the following problem.

I am trying to create a parabolic formula to give me target weight.

For example:-

Day 1 = Target Weight 100kg
Day 112 = Target Weight 67kg

Each day is consecutive - can anyone help me to create a parabolic formula that goes from 100kg in Day 1 down to 67kg in Day 112.

A linear equation is easier but doesn't do it for me a parabolic formula would

Can anyone help?

Thank you.
 
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Do you maybe mean exponential instead of parabolic? It makes a difference what you want to base the non-linear term in your equation on (just time or the previous day's weight)...
 
A couple of cautionary words - in case this is an actual weight loss plan:

1. That's an extremely aggressive timetable. 72 lb. in 112 days - or two pounds every three days. One might call it dangerous. Medical opinions vary, but a good ballpark figure for weight loss is more like 1-2 pounds (.5kg-1kg) per week.

2. If you follow through, you have a date with a hospital for dehydration and electrolyte imbalance (which leads to a heart attack).

3. There is no point in weighing yourself more often than once per week. Your normal weight will vary by several pounds per day - trying to track it any more frequently than weekly will give false readings of your true weight loss.
 
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tomtomtom1 said:
Summary:: How to create a parabolic formula

I was hoping someone can help with the following problem.

I am trying to create a parabolic formula to give me target weight.
@tomtomtom1 (if that is your REAL name...) -- Is this more homework?
 
From the mathematical side, a parabola has three degrees of freedom, you only fixed two. There is e.g. a parabola that has the given start and end numbers but goes through 1000 kg in between. There is also a parabola that goes through -100 kg in between. Clearly these examples are nonsense, but there is still a large range of non-nonsense parabolas and no rule given to distinguish between them.

I also don't see what a parabola would do better than a linear function. Keeping the same weight loss per week is easier and probably better for the body, too. And keep the advice of post 3 in mind.
 
mfb said:
From the mathematical side, a parabola has three degrees of freedom, you only fixed two. There is e.g. a parabola that has the given start and end numbers but goes through 1000 kg in between. There is also a parabola that goes through -100 kg in between. Clearly these examples are nonsense, but there is still a large range of non-nonsense parabolas and no rule given to distinguish between them.

I also don't see what a parabola would do better than a linear function. Keeping the same weight loss per week is easier and probably better for the body, too. And keep the advice of post 3 in mind.

Hi mfb

Would some form of logarithmic function work?
 
berkeman said:
Do you maybe mean exponential instead of parabolic? It makes a difference what you want to base the non-linear term in your equation on (just time or the previous day's weight)...
Berkeman

If an exponential/log function would meet Day 1 = 100kg and Day 112 = 67kg then i would be happy to try that but i just don't know how to generate the function that meets those requirements.
 
berkeman said:
@tomtomtom1 (if that is your REAL name...) -- Is this more homework?
You didn't respond to @berkeman's question.

An exponential function (decaying) would look like this: ##W(x) = W_0e^{-kx}##, where k is a positive constant. Using your given information, W(1) = 100 and W(112) = 67, I get an exponential function that is close to being a straight line.
 
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tomtomtom1 said:
If an exponential/log function would meet Day 1 = 100kg and Day 112 = 67kg then i would be happy to try that but i just don't know how to generate the function that meets those requirements.
Pick any function whatsoever. If it does not happen to hit the points where W(1)=100 and W(112)=67 then add a linear function to make up the difference.

This would be a [trivial] example of Lagrange interpolation.

A different approach is the one that @Mark44 used. Find a function that has two or more tunable parameters and tune them so that W(1) = 100 and W(112) = 67.
 
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I think jedish's question really needs an answer: is this homework?

Because if it isn't, one must ask how much use it can be. If the OP is
- measuring OP's weight daily,
- and that can vary by as much as a kg,
- and OP's scale only measures to a precision of one kg
- and OP is trying to track a curve that varies by less than one kg per day...
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Also notice that - to hit the target weight by the target date and maintain a slope that levels off the farther one goes - the initial slope must be steeper than average i.e. the OP will have to lose a greater than average weight in the first few weeks.

Essentially the OP has to lose something on the order of 1 kg every two days for the first couple of weeks.

Good luck doing that without suffering dehydration - or worse.
 
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