How to Derive a Cubic Function with Horizontal Tangents at Given Points?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving a cubic function that has horizontal tangents at specified points, specifically at (-2, 6) and (2, 0). Participants explore the necessary conditions and equations to determine the coefficients of the cubic polynomial.

Discussion Character

  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Participants begin with the general form of a cubic function, \(y = ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d\), and note the conditions for horizontal tangents at the given points.
  • Equations are established based on the function values at the specified points: \(f(-2) = 6\) leading to \(-8a + 4b - 2c + d = 6\) and \(f(2) = 0\) leading to \(8a + 4b + 2c + d = 0\).
  • It is noted that the derivative must equal zero at the points of tangency, resulting in additional equations: \(f'(-2) = 0\) and \(f'(2) = 0\).
  • One participant suggests that \(d = 3\), which is later confirmed by another participant.
  • Further calculations lead to the equations \(16a + 4c = -6\) and \(12a + c = 0\), allowing for the deduction of \(a = \frac{3}{16}\) and subsequently \(c = -\frac{9}{4}\).
  • Participants discuss the remaining variable \(b\) and how it can be determined from the established equations.
  • Finally, a proposed cubic function is presented as \(y = \frac{3}{16}x^3 - \frac{9}{4}x + 3\), with expressions of hope regarding its correctness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the values of \(d\), \(a\), and \(c\), but the determination of \(b\) remains unresolved, indicating that multiple views or approaches may exist regarding its calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on a system of equations derived from function values and derivatives, but the discussion does not fully resolve the value of \(b\) or confirm the final function as correct.

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$$y=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$$

Find the cubic eq whose graph has horz tangent at the points$ (-2,6)$ and $ (2,0)$
$$y'=3a{x}^{2}+2bx+c$$
 
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karush said:
$$y=ax^3+bx^2+cx+d$$

Find the cubic eq whose graph has horz tangent at the points$ (-2,6)$ and $ (2,0)$
$$y'=3a{x}^{2}+2bx+c$$

(Wave)

We have $y=f(x)=ax^3 + bx^2 + cx + d $ .

We want to find the values of $a, b, c$ and $d$.

We know that $f(-2)=6$, so we have: $-8a + 4b - 2c + d = 6 $.

We also know that $f(2)=0$, so we have: $8a+4b+2c+d=0$.

Since there are horizontal tangents at those two points, we know that the derivative is zero at those points, i.e. $f'(-2)=f'(2)=0$ .

Then you will have 4 equations and you will solve the system.
 
Isn't $d=3$

Of which we only need a, b, c
 
karush said:
Isn't $d=3$

Of which we only need a, b, c

Yes, it is $d=3$.

Making operations, we can find for example the equalities $16a+4c=-6$ and $12a+c=0$ and we deduce that $a=\frac{3}{16}$.
 
Then $c=-\frac{9}{4}$

So we have b left

So then $$f'(-2)=f'(2)=0$$

Is next?
 
karush said:
Then $c=-\frac{9}{4}$

Exactly! (Nod)

karush said:
So we have b left

So then $$f'(-2)=f'(2)=0$$

Is next?

You said previously that $d=3$. Then by adding the equality that we get from $f(2)=6$ with the equality we get from $f(-2)=0$, if we multiply it by $-1$ , we have that $4b+d=3$. So... ?
 
$$y=\frac{3}{16}{x}^{3}-\frac{9}{4}x+3$$

I hope
 
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karush said:
$y=\frac{3}{16}{x}^{3}-\frac{9}{4}x+3$$

I hope

Well done! (Clapping)
 

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