How to Derive Lagrange's Equations for a Double Pendulum?

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The discussion revolves around deriving Lagrange's equations of motion for a double pendulum system, which consists of two pendula with equal lengths and masses, moving in the same plane without assuming small angles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster seeks to identify appropriate generalized coordinates and how to incorporate constraints into the derivation. Some participants suggest that the two angles formed with the vertical serve as the necessary coordinates. However, there is a question regarding the independence of these two angles.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the independence of the chosen coordinates and clarifying the setup for the problem. There is a suggestion that the two angles are indeed independent, but further exploration of this point may continue.

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Participants are considering the implications of the constraints imposed by the double pendulum setup and how these affect the choice of generalized coordinates.

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Lagrange equation of motion



(from Marion 7-7)

A double pendulum consists of two simpe pendula, with one pendulum suspended from the bob of the other. If the two pendula have equal lenghts and have bobs of equal mass and if both pendula are confirned to move in the same plane, find Lagrange's equation of motion for the system. Do not assume small angles.

Which generalized coordinates should it choose? And how to made use of the constrains?
 
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Make a picture. You can see that the 2 angles formed with the vertical are the 2 needed generalized coordinates.
 
but are these two angles independent of each other? (in fact, i don't know how to determine whether two coordinates are independent of each other or not)
 

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