How to Design a Fire Fighting Pumping Unit with Specific Pump Capacities?

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The discussion revolves around the design of a fire fighting pumping unit (FFPU) that includes specific pump capacities: an electric pump and a diesel engine-driven backup pump, both rated at 500 GPM and 7 bar, along with a jockey pump rated at 50 GPM and 8 bar. The inquiry seeks guidance on various design relationships and calculations necessary for constructing the unit.

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  • One participant requests guidance on designing an FFPU with specified pump capacities and outlines the need for various calculations related to pump ratings, valve selection, piping, losses, sensors, and control units.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need for more specific information regarding the design requirements.
  • A later reply warns that the task is significant and suggests hiring a registered professional engineer due to potential liability issues, indicating that the discussion may not be suitable for informal guidance.

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Participants generally agree that the task is complex and may require professional expertise, but there is no consensus on how to proceed with the design without such assistance.

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The discussion lacks specific assumptions or definitions regarding the design parameters and does not resolve the complexities involved in the calculations and relationships mentioned.

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I have a query of supplying pumps namely electricity operating pump 500 GPM, 7 bar, diesel engine driven backup pump 500 GPM, 7 bar and a jockey pump 50 GPM, 8 bar to be used for making fire fighting pumping unit (FFPU). Please guide/tell how to design the unit (FFPU) from these?
 
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You'll need to be much more specific about what you want to know.
 
russ_watters said:
You'll need to be much more specific about what you want to know.
I need to build fixed skid mounted FFPU consisting of three pumps (already mentioned) with water supplied from city source and stored in fire tank. All the pumps (centrifugal) should have common suction and discharge pipe.

I need:
a relationship of calculating diesel engine (rating) from known pump type and size
relationship(s) for selection of valves (types, ratings, characteristics (linear, equal percentage etc.) etc.)
relationship(s) of calculating piping (size, lengths etc.)
relationship(s) of calculating losses in piping and pump set and way to incorporate them into the final selection
relationship(s) of calculating sensor(s) and controllers (actuating time, operating voltage(s) etc.) from above data
relationship/circuit diagram of designing control unit (consisting of sensors, controllers etc.)
 
That's a pretty big and important task you are asking us to help you with. It is generally required by law that you hire a registered professional engineer to do it for you. Even if that is not an issue, for us to help you could create liability problems for us. So please hire yourself an engineer. Thread locked.
 

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