How to determine how many distinct members of set

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The discussion revolves around determining the distinct members of the set A defined by the equation z^6 = -64. Participants explore the nature of the solutions in the complex plane, including their representation and counting distinct values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the set A as {z | z^6 = -64} and asks for the distinct members.
  • Another participant expresses the equation in terms of trigonometric functions, suggesting a method to count the distinct members of A.
  • A third participant notes that the equation zn = a has n distinct solutions in the complex numbers, which are evenly spaced around a circle.
  • A participant questions the use of the term 2k+1 and expresses difficulty in understanding how to count the distinct members.
  • In response, a participant explains the use of 2k+1 to represent -1 in trigonometric terms and confirms that there are 6 distinct solutions, indicating that solutions repeat after the sixth value.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are 6 distinct solutions to the equation, but there is some uncertainty regarding the method of counting and the representation of the solutions.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the properties of complex numbers and the periodic nature of trigonometric functions, which may not be explicitly stated. The counting method relies on the understanding of complex roots and their geometric representation.

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let
A = {z(belogs to)C | z^6 = −64}
list all members of A
how many distinct members of A are there?
 
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Write [tex]-64=2^6(\cos(2\,k+1)\,\pi+i\,\sin(2\,k+1)\,\pi)[/tex], thus

[tex]z^6=-64\Rightarrow z=2\,\left(\cos\frac{(2\,k+1)\,\pi}{6}+i\,\sin\frac{(2\,k+1)\,\pi}{6}\right)[/tex]

Now it is easy to count the distinct members of A.
 
The equation zn= a where a is a complex number, always has n distinct solutions in the complex numbers. They are equally spaced around a circle centered on 0 with radius the positive nth root of |a|.
 
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how did you get 2k+1? and how is it easy to count the distinct members?
i'm sorry i know it should be easy but i can't figure out the answer.
 
The [itex]2\,k+1[/itex] is used in order to write the -1, with trigonometric functions, i.e.

[tex]\cos(2\,k+1)\,\pi=-1,\quad \sin(2\,k+1)\,\pi=0[/tex]

As HallsofIvy posted there are 6 distinct solutions. If you plug in the equation

[tex]z=2\,\left(\cos\frac{(2\,k+1)\,\pi}{6}+i\,\sin\frac{(2\,k+1)\,\pi}{6}\right)[/tex]

the values [itex]k=0,1,2,3,4,5,\dots[/itex] then you will see that after the 6th value the solutions, repeat themselves.
 

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