How to Determine if a Point Lies Inside a Tilted and Translated Ellipse?

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The discussion focuses on determining whether a point lies within a tilted and translated ellipse. Participants explore the mathematical formulation required to assess point inclusion in the context of astronomical research, where ellipses represent shapes of galaxies. The conversation includes attempts to derive a suitable equation that accounts for the ellipse's center, axes lengths, and tilt angle.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks a formula for determining point inclusion in a tilted ellipse, specifying the need for parameters such as the center coordinates, lengths of the major and minor axes, and the tilt angle.
  • Another participant suggests that transforming to a non-tilted coordinate system may simplify the problem, allowing for easier calculations.
  • A different formula is proposed by a participant, which incorporates the center offset and tilt angle, although it is not clear if this is universally accepted or correct.
  • One participant expresses agreement with the need to account for the ellipse being off-center and references an external source for further clarification.

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Participants present multiple approaches and formulas, indicating that there is no consensus on a single correct method. Disagreement exists regarding the best way to formulate the problem, with various suggestions being made.

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Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps necessary to validate the proposed formulas, and there may be limitations related to the assumptions made about the ellipse's orientation and position.

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I need to find whether or not a point is within an ellipse. The problem is that the ellipse is tilted at an angle and not at the origin. I've tried Googling everywhere and can't find a good equation for what I need. Does anybody know the formula for an ellipse that includes:

1. Coordinates of the ellipse's center
2. Length of major axis (diameter or radius)
3. Length of minor axis (diameter or radius)
4. Angle the ellipse is tilted relative to x or y-axis (doesn't matter which, I can figure it out from there).

I'm doing astronomical research, and I'm trying to locate points within galaxies which are shaped like ellipses. The four things I listed are the things I am given.

Edit: I know I can translate and rotate my ellipse, but I would really like just one formula since I need to do this approximately 2,500 times for my astronomical research.

Another edit: Maybe this?

(\frac{x cos\theta+y sin\theta - x_c}{a})^2 + (\frac{x sin\theta-y cos\theta - y_c}{b})^2 = 1

a = major axis (radial)
b = minor axis (radial)
x_c = x coordinate of center
y_c = y coordinate of center
\theta = Angle of tilt from x-axis

I kind of just mixed and matched formulas until I think I incorporated everything. Is it right?
 
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It may be simplest to compute a change of coordinates that tranforms to a coordinate system where the ellipse is not tilted. Then apply the change of coordinates to the points in question and solve the problem in the simpler setting.
 
Try this:

\frac{((x-x_c)\cos\theta + (y-y_c)\sin\theta)^2}{a^2}+<br /> \frac{((x-x_c)\sin\theta - (y-y_c)\cos\theta)^2}{b^2}=1
 
Hm, yeah, that makes more sense with incorporating the fact that it's off-center with the formula from this website:

http://www.maa.org/joma/Volume8/Kalman/General.html
 
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