Find Length of Line Segment Connecting Center & Point of Ellipse

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of the line segment connecting the center of an ellipse to a specific point on the ellipse. Participants explore the relationship between Cartesian and polar coordinates in the context of the ellipse's equation and the angle from the major axis.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine the length of a line segment from the center of an ellipse to a point on the ellipse, given the ellipse's equation and an angle from the major axis.
  • Another participant suggests converting the ellipse's equation from Cartesian to polar coordinates, indicating that the radius can be expressed as a function of the angle.
  • A participant acknowledges the explanation provided about polar coordinates, expressing a lack of understanding of the polar system but recognizing its relevance to the problem.
  • Further clarification is provided on the differences between Cartesian and polar coordinates, emphasizing how each system represents distances and angles from the origin.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the approach of converting the ellipse's equation to polar coordinates, but there is no consensus on the understanding of polar coordinates among all participants, indicating varying levels of familiarity with the topic.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the polar coordinate system and its application to the problem, which may affect their ability to fully engage with the proposed solutions.

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Hello to everyone!
I am really desparately trying to find the length of the "radius" of an ellipse.I will explain exactly what I mean by that - its the length of the line segment that connects the center of a particular ellipse with a given point of the same ellipse.All the information I have to solve this problem is the ellipse equation and an angle measured from the major axis to that line segment,the center of the ellipse and cartesian coordinate system .
All kinds of tips and hints will be greatly appreciated.
 
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Well, suppose (for simplicity) that the ellipse is centered at the origin and has major axis a and minor axis b, so that the equation of the ellipse in Cartesian coordinates is (\frac{x}{a})^2+(\frac{y}{b})^2=1. I take it you want to find the equation of the ellipse in polar coordinates, i.e. find r as a function of \theta. In that case, just do what you always do to convert to polar coordinates: plug in x=r\cos\theta and y=r\sin\theta.
 


A. Bahat said:
Well, suppose (for simplicity) that the ellipse is centered at the origin and has major axis a and minor axis b, so that the equation of the ellipse in Cartesian coordinates is (\frac{x}{a})^2+(\frac{y}{b})^2=1. I take it you want to find the equation of the ellipse in polar coordinates, i.e. find r as a function of \theta. In that case, just do what you always do to convert to polar coordinates: plug in x=r\cos\theta and y=r\sin\theta.

Thank you for the detailed answer, A.Bahat.It looks like this will solve the mystery.I don't understand the polar coordinate system and that's why I skiped this as an option.As I understand this polar equation represents a vector with a beginning the center of the Ellipse and an arrow which points at a specific fragment of the ellipse depending on the angle.
 


That's a pretty good way to put it. The Cartesian coordinates give you the horizontal and vertical distances from the x and y axes (these are just the x and y coordinates, after all). On the other hand, polar coordinates specify the distance from the origin (called r, as in radius) and the angle that the line through the point makes with the x axis (usually denoted by \theta). It is pretty easy to go back and forth between these coordinate systems using some trigonometry. This picture shows how one finds the formulas I gave in the last post for x and y in terms of r and \theta.

250px-Polar_to_cartesian.svg.png


That's really all there is to polar coordinates (along with converting polar coordinates to Cartesian coordinates, but that doesn't have anything to do with your question).
 

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