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To determine the vertex of a parabola given by the general equation $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0$, the condition $B^2 = 4AC$ must hold. The example equation $4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 = 0$ is identified as a parabola, despite initial confusion labeling it as an ellipse. The vertex can be found by transforming the coordinates to align the parabola's axis with the coordinate axes, using new variables $(X,Y)$. The final vertex coordinates can be expressed in terms of the original coordinates, leading to specific values for $x$ and $y$.
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The general equation of the parabola has the form
$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0$ with $B^2 = 4AC$
what is the coordinate of the vertex of the parabola or in other word how to determine the vertex of a given parabola for example
$4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0 $

Thanks.
 
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Amer said:
The general equation of the parabola has the form
$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0$ with $B^2 = 4AC$
what is the coordinate of the vertex of the parabola or in other word how to determine the vertex of a given parabola for example
$4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0 $

Thanks.

The general equation of the parabola has the form
$$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0, \text{ with } A \neq 0, C=0$$
OR
$$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0, \text{ with } A=0, C \neq 0$$

$4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0$ is an ellipse.
 
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Amer said:
The general equation of the parabola has the form
$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0$ with $B^2 = 4AC$
what is the coordinate of the vertex of the parabola or in other word how to determine the vertex of a given parabola for example
$4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0 $

Thanks.
In general, the axis of the parabola will be at an angle to the coordinate axes. I think that the easiest way to find the vertex is probably to find some new coordinates $(X,Y)$ so that the axis of the parabola is parallel to one of the new coordinate axes.

If the equation is $4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0 $, then you can write it as $(2x+y)^2 = 5x - 7y - 11$. Take one of the new coordinates to be $Y = 2x+y$. The other coordinate $X$ must be perpendicular to $Y$, so take it to be $X = x-2y$. Next, solve the equations to get the old coordinates $(x,y)$ in terms of the new ones. That gives $x = \frac15(X+2Y)$, $y = \frac15(Y-2X)$. Substitute those values into the parabola equation, getting $Y^2 = (X+2Y) - \frac75(Y-2X) + 11$.

At this stage, the arithmetic gets messy, so I won't try to get the numbers correct. But in principle you can rearrange that last equation to get it into the form $(Y-\alpha)^2 = \beta(X-\gamma)$ for some coefficients $\alpha$, $\beta$, $\gamma$. You should be able to recognise that as a parabola with vertex at $(X,Y) = (\gamma,\alpha)$. Now all that remains is to express that in terms of the old coordinates $(x,y)$.
 
Amer said:
The general equation of the parabola has the form
$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0$ with $B^2 = 4AC$
Strictly speaking, it is also required that
\[
\begin{vmatrix}
A & B/2 & D/2\\
B/2 & C & E/2\\
D/2 & E/2 & F
\end{vmatrix}\ne0.
\]

mathmari said:
The general equation of the parabola has the form
$$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0, \text{ with } A \neq 0, C=0$$
OR
$$Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2 + Dx + Ey + F = 0, \text{ with } A=0, C \neq 0$$
If $A=0$ or $C=0$ while $B\ne0$, then it is not a parabola since $B^2\ne4AC$.

mathmari said:
$4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0$ is an ellipse.
No, it's a parabola.

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The vertex of a parabola with equation $F(x,y)=0$ can be found as follows. First find the asymptotic direction $(\alpha,\beta)$ from the equation
\[
A\alpha^2+B\alpha\beta+C\beta^2=0
\]
(there are infinitely many nonzero solutions). Then the equation of the parabola axis is
\[
-\beta\frac{\partial F}{\partial x}+\alpha\frac{\partial F}{\partial y}=0\qquad(*)
\]
so the coordinates of the vertex can be found from (*) and $F(x,y)=0$.

In the case of
\[
4x^2 + 4xy + y^2 - 5x + 7y + 11 =0
\]
the asymptotic direction is $(1,-2)$, the axis is $20x+10y-3=0$ and the vertex is $x = \frac{1319}{1900}\approx 0.694$ and $y = -\frac{517}{475}\approx -1.088$.
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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