MHB How to determine whether an integral is convergent or divergent

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The discussion focuses on determining the convergence or divergence of specific integrals. The first integral, $\int_{0}^{9} \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}}\,dx$, is analyzed by examining the limit as it approaches the singularity at $x=1$, confirming its convergence through integration techniques. The participants also discuss the second integral, $\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \cos(\pi t)\,dt$, noting that the limits do not exist, indicating divergence. The conversation emphasizes the importance of evaluating integrals around points of discontinuity and the use of properties of definite integrals to simplify calculations. Ultimately, understanding the behavior of the integrands at critical points is crucial for determining convergence.
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Determine whether the integral is convergent or divergent. Evaluate those that are convergent.

$\int_{0}^{9} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx$

$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \ \cos\left({\pi t}\right),dt$

how do i determine whether it's conver/diver?
 
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Let's look at the first one...the domain of the integrand excludes $x=1$, and so it would be wise to look at:

$$\int_a^1 (x-1)^{-\frac{1}{3}}\,dx$$

To see if this converges, we could look at the limit:

$$\lim_{t\to1}\left[\int_a^t (x-1)^{-\frac{1}{3}}\,dx\right]$$

Does this limit exist, and if so, what is its value?
 
I don't really know. I haven't done limits in a loooong time. I'll have to go over them once more.
 
ineedhelpnow said:
I don't really know. I haven't done limits in a loooong time. I'll have to go over them once more.

Start by evaluating the integral with $t$ and see what you get. Then take the limit. Maybe the answer will become clearer after you integrate.
 
is it $\frac{-3(a-1)^{2/3}}{2}$ ?
 
ineedhelpnow said:
is it $\frac{-3(a-1)^{2/3}}{2}$ ?

Indeed it is! :D

So, how can you use your formula to find the value of the integral in the first problem?
 
that... :confused: i do not know
 
ineedhelpnow said:
that... :confused: i do not know

Suppose we have:

$$a<k<b$$ and $f(x)$ is integrable on $[a,b]$.

A wonderful property of definite integrals is that:

$$\int_{a}^{b} f(x)\,dx=\int_{a}^{k} f(x)\,dx+\int_{k}^{b} f(x)\,dx$$

Another identity you may need is:

$$\int_{a}^{b} f(x)\,dx=-\int_{b}^{a} f(x)\,dx$$

Can you put these together now to evaluate the first integral?
 
$\int_{0}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx + \int_{1}^{9} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx$

is the set up correct?
 
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ineedhelpnow said:
$\int_{0}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx + \int_{1}^{9} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx$

is the set up correct?

Yes, good! Now apply the second identity I gave so that the second integral also has 1 as the upper limit. :D
 
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$$\int_{0}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}}dx - \int_{9}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}} dx$$

$$=[\frac{3 (x-1)^{2/3}}{2}]^{1}_{0} - [\frac{3 (x-1)^{2/3}}{2}]^{1}_{9}$$

$$=(0-\frac{3}{2} (-1)^{2/3}) - (0-\frac{3}{2} (8)^{2/3})$$

$$=\frac{21}{4}-\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{4}$$

i think i made a mistake with the first part of my answer. my calculator is giving me -21 instead of 21
 
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ineedhelpnow said:
$\int_{0}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx - \int_{9}^{1} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}} ,dx$

$=[\frac{3 (x-1)^{2/3}}{2}]^{1}_{0} - [\frac{3 (x-1)^{2/3}}{2}]^{1}_{9}$

$=(0-\frac{3}{2} (-1)^{2/3}) - (0-\frac{3}{2} (8)^{2/3})$

$=\frac{21}{4}-\frac{3\sqrt{3}}{4}$

i think i made a mistake with the first part of my answer. my calculator is giving me -21 instead of 21

You really only need to plug into your formula:

$$I=-\frac{3}{2}\left((0-1)^{\frac{2}{3}}-(9-1)^{\frac{2}{3}}\right)=-\frac{3}{2}\left(1-4\right)=\frac{9}{2}$$
 
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after you found that the integral was convergent wouldn't it have been the same to just work on the original integrand that was given in the first place?
 
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ineedhelpnow said:
after you found that the integral was convergent wouldn't it have been the same to just work on the original integrand that was given in the first place?

Yes, but why integrate all over again?
 
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ineedhelpnow said:
Determine whether the integral is convergent or divergent. Evaluate those that are convergent.

$\int_{0}^{9} \ \frac{1}{\sqrt[3]{x-1}},dx$

$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \ \cos\left({\pi t}\right),dt$

how do i determine whether it's conver/diver?

For the second one, do these limits exist? $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \lim_{x \to \infty} \cos{(x)} \end{align*}$ and $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \lim_{x \to \infty} \sin{(x)} \end{align*}$
 

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