How to evaluate a Triple Integral

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the triple integral \(\int\int\int_{G} \sqrt{4x^2+9y^2} dV\), where \(G\) is defined as the region of an elliptic cylinder \(4x^2+9y^2 \leq 25\) and \(0 \leq z \leq 6\). Participants explore various methods for integration, including changes of variables and coordinate transformations.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests integrating with respect to \(z\) first since it does not appear in the integrand, followed by two changes of variables to simplify the integral.
  • Another participant proposes using modified cylindrical coordinates, defining \(r^2 = 4x^2 + 9y^2\) and calculating the Jacobian for the transformation.
  • A later reply indicates a simpler approach that combines steps but does not elaborate on the specifics.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about their progress, with one stating they are stuck and another asking for guidance on how to start the evaluation.
  • One participant provides a detailed transformation of variables and calculates the Jacobian, leading to a reformulated integral.
  • Another participant expresses appreciation for the insights shared, indicating a positive reception to the proposed methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for evaluating the integral, as multiple approaches are discussed and some express uncertainty about their attempts.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for careful calculation of the Jacobian and the implications of the coordinate transformations, but specific assumptions or limitations in their approaches are not fully resolved.

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How would I evaluate the integral [tex]\int\int\int_{G}[/tex] [tex]\sqrt{4x^2+9y^2}[/tex] dV,
where G is the elliptic cylinder 4x2+9y2 [tex]\leq[/tex] 25,
0 [tex]\leq[/tex] z [tex]\leq[/tex] 6
 
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You can easily integrate for Z, since there's no Z in the integrand. Next, you need to do two changes of variables. The first is simply x'=2x and y'=3y. You will get a very familiar integral (don't forget the jacobian). Then you go in polar coordinates (Mr. Jacob is here too) to integrate a very very simple equation.
 
I was given a hint:
Try modified cylindrical coordinates with[tex]\vartheta[/tex] retaining its usual meanings, but with the meaning of r changed so that r2 = 4x2 + 9y2. You will need to make definitions such as x = a1r cos[tex]\vartheta[/tex]
and y = a2 sin[tex]\vartheta[/tex], for some suitable numbers a1 and a2. You will need to calculate the jacobian for this mapping.
 
Yes you can do it. It's even simpler than what I said but it's exactly the same thing, except that it's in one single step.

So you have your answer or your stuck there?
 
Just a little bit stuck. I tried it but it didn't seem to work out.
 
I don't know how to start it. If someone would show me how to do this it would be really appreciated.
 
You need to define (x,y,z) with (r,t,z'):

[tex] x = \frac{r}{2}cos\theta[/tex]

[tex] y = \frac{r}{3}sin\theta[/tex]

[tex] z = z'[/tex]

[tex] \left| J \right| = \begin{vmatrix} \frac{1}{2}cos\theta & -\frac{r}{2}sin\theta & 0 \\ \frac{1}{3}sin\theta & \frac{r}{3}cos\theta & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 1 \end{vmatrix} = \frac{r}{6}[/tex]

Noting that using this transformation, r is really equal to [itex]\sqrt{4x^2 + 9y^2}[/itex], you finally have this integral:

[tex] \int_{r=0}^5 { \int_{\theta=0}^{2 \pi} { \int_{z'=0}^6 { r \frac{r}{6}dz' d\theta dr } } }[/tex]
 
Of course. It's so obvious. Thanks heaps.
 

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