How to Find Cx and Cy Given Perpendicular and Scalar Product Conditions?

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The problem involves finding the components Cx and Cy of a vector C in the xy-plane, given that it is perpendicular to vector A and has a scalar product of 19 with vector B. The vectors A and B are defined with specific components.

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  • Participants discuss expanding the dot products in terms of the components of vector C. There is an attempt to derive relationships between Cx and Cy based on the conditions provided.

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Some participants have provided hints and suggestions for writing out the equations based on the dot product conditions. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges faced in solving the equations, and some participants express frustration while others encourage showing work to clarify reasoning.

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Participants note the difficulty in transitioning from one equation to another and question the mathematical approach being taken. There is a sense of uncertainty regarding the correctness of the values obtained during the calculations.

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Homework Statement



You are given vectors A = 5.1i - 6.7j and B = - 3.2i + 7.2j .
A third vector C lies in the xy-plane. Vector C is perpendicular to vector A and the scalar product of C with B is 19.0

What're Cx and Cy?

The attempt at a solution
A.C = 0
B.C = 19
 
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Can you expand both dot products in terms of the components of C?
 
Hint: 5.1 is the x-component of vector A, -6.7 is the y-component of vector A
 
thanks for the hint but it doesn't help -_-
I'm really tired of trying to solve it and I'm kinda near giving up that's why I ended up here guys so that you could help me, so please do help! I want an answer with explanation :)

this is what I got recently --> Cx = 1.34 Cy and then? I don't know what to do '~'
 
snaamlsa said:
thanks for the hint but it doesn't help -_-
I'm really tired of trying to solve it and I'm kinda near giving up that's why I ended up here guys so that you could help me, so please do help! I want an answer with explanation :)

this is what I got recently --> Cx = 1.34 Cy and then? I don't know what to do '~'

You should show your work so we know where you got that from. But, that looks almost like it came from A.C = 0. Does the B.C =19 condition give another useful relationship between Cx and Cy?
 
fzero said:
You should show your work so we know where you got that from. But, that looks almost like it came from A.C = 0. Does the B.C =19 condition give another useful relationship between Cx and Cy?

oh sorry, so here is my work:

A.C = AxCx + AyCy
5.1Cx - 6.7Cy = 0
Cx = 1.34 Cy

and here we're finished with A.C and will work on B.C = 19 with the value of Cx = 1.34 Cy . . . but how?!
 
snaamlsa said:
oh sorry, so here is my work:

A.C = AxCx + AyCy
5.1Cx - 6.7Cy = 0
Cx = 1.34 Cy

and here we're finished with A.C and will work on B.C = 19 with the value of Cx = 1.34 Cy . . . but how?!

Write out B.C in components and you'll get a 2nd equation for Cx and Cy. You'll have 2 equations for 2 unknowns and can combine the equations to solve for both unknowns.
 
fzero said:
Write out B.C in components and you'll get a 2nd equation for Cx and Cy. You'll have 2 equations for 2 unknowns and can combine the equations to solve for both unknowns.

I've tried that but it doesn't seem to work x_X
I think it's more of a mathematical problem than a physics one -.-
 
Can you write down the equation that you obtained? If you use your 1st equation to substitute for Cx in the 2nd, you can solve for Cy. Then use that Cy in the 1st equation to give Cx.
 
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B.C = -3.2 Cx + 7.2 Cy
is it here how should I substitute for Cx:
-3.2 (1.34) + 7.2 Cy = 19
Cy = 3.2344 (which I know is wrong)

A.C = 5.1 Cx - 6.7 Cy
5.1 Cx -6.7(3.2344) = 0
Cx = 4.2491 (which is wrong)

lol I'm not good with Maths either :\
 
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snaamlsa said:
-3.2 (1.34) + 7.2 Cy = 19

should be -3.2 (1.34 Cy ) + 7.2 Cy = 19
 
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Ok I've got it
Thanks guys especially fzero, you made me think and now I got the answer by myself thanks a lot for coming back everytime I really appreciate it ^__^
 
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fzero said:
should be -3.2 (1.34 Cy ) + 7.2 Cy = 19

lol yeah there was the real problem, I figured it out thanks a loooooooooooooooooooot!
sorry for being an idiot :P
 

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