How to Find Electrostatic Energy in a Spherical Capacitor?

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The problem involves calculating the electrostatic energy stored in a dielectric medium between two spherical shells maintained at different potentials, V1 and V2. The original poster is exploring how to approach this calculation given the boundary conditions without direct information on charge or electric field.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers two potential approaches: using the Laplace equation to find the potential field and subsequently the electric field, or determining the charge on the spheres based on the given potentials. Some participants inquire about the relationship between capacitance, charge, and potential, while others suggest looking into relevant literature for examples.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the relationship between charge, potential, and capacitance in the context of spherical capacitors. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of capacitance based on geometry, and there is recognition of the need to clarify assumptions about charge distribution. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and approaches without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the specific conditions of the problem, including the maintenance of potentials on the shells and the implications for calculating energy. Participants note the potential complexity introduced by external charges and the need to focus on the energy within the dielectric medium specifically.

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Homework Statement


The space between two spherical shells kept at potentials V1 and V2, respectively, is filled with a dielectric medium. Find the electrostatic energy on the medium.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I know how to get the energy if I am given the electric field or the charge and potential, but here I am only given two boundary conditions. I can think ot two approaches:
try to obtain the potential field everywhere using the Laplace equation and the boundary conditions, and then obtain the electric field from it, or
try to obtain the charge of the spheres by assuming uniformly distributed charge on the spheres and then asking how much charge would be needed to have potentials V1 and V2.

Which one should I use, if any?
 
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You know how to find the capacitance?
 
The capacitance is Q/V, but I have neither of those terms.
 
You can see 'introduction to electrodynamic' by Griffits. It is explain how to calculate with example.
 
There are a few examples in Griffiths, but I'm not 100% sure how they relate to this problem. Is any of the approaches I mentioned appropriate?
 
The capacitance is Q/V, but I have neither of those terms.
... the capacitance of a spherical capacitor can be calculated from it's geometry. Google for "spherical capacitor" to see what I mean, or you can derive the relationship in the usual way.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/capsph.html
 
Oh, I see, I can find the quotient between Q and ΔV before knowing any of them.

The only thing that troubles me is that now I can calculate the energy between the spheres, but what about the energy on the outside? If the charge Q' in the outer sphere is not equal and opposite to the charge Q in the inner sphere there will be an electric field in the surroundings, and therefore there will be energy depending on the charge Q', which I am not given.
 
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You are only asked to find the electrostatic energy stored in the dielectric medium between the shells.
 
For finding capacitance Q/V, Q is absolute magnitude of the smallest charge on the spherical shells(may be |q1| >,< or = |q2|), And V is difference potential between them.
 
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oh, I forget. V is only due to equal charges(absolute magnitude) on spherical shells. For calculating V we must remove additional charge.
 
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@Abbas: In the above problem, the shells are maintained at a particular potential ... as opposed to the usual case where one shell is charged off the other one.
Thus ##\Delta V = |V_2-V_1|##.
 
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C in C=Q/V is constant and it is independent of Q and V. it only depens on the material and shape of the capacitor.
 

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