How to find formula for resonant frequency of a forced oscillator.

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The resonant frequency of a damped forced harmonic oscillator can be determined using the formula Wres = sqrt(Wo^2 - (y^2)/2), where Wo is the natural frequency and y is the damping constant. To find the driving angular frequency w that maximizes amplitude A, one must differentiate the amplitude equation A = (Fo/m) / sqrt((wo^2 - w^2)^2 + (wy)^2) with respect to w and set the derivative dA/dw to zero. The resulting equation simplifies to a manageable form, allowing for the determination of w at which A is maximized.

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In a damped forced harmonic oscillator the amplitude is determined by a series of paramenters according to :

A = (Fo/m)/ (sqrt( (wo^2-w^2)^2+(wy)^2) ).

where

Fo= driving force,
m=mass of spring
wo=natural frequency of system.
w=driving frequency
y=damping constant.

Now my question is how do you find the driving angular frequency w at which A is maximum, which should be the resonante frequency (that is not exactly Wo).

The resonant frequency formula is :

Wres = sqrt(Wo^2-(y^2)/2)) .

I though that differentiating the formula for A in terms of dA/dw and equating it to zero should give me an answer but the maths look to convoluted for such a simple answer. Any ideas of how to get the resonante frequency?
 
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alimon.cioro said:
In a damped forced harmonic oscillator the amplitude is determined by a series of paramenters according to :

A = (Fo/m)/ (sqrt( (wo^2-w^2)^2+(wy)^2) ).

where

Fo= driving force,
m=mass of spring
wo=natural frequency of system.
w=driving frequency
y=damping constant.

Now my question is how do you find the driving angular frequency w at which A is maximum, which should be the resonante frequency (that is not exactly Wo).

The resonant frequency formula is :

Wres = sqrt(Wo^2-(y^2)/2)) .

I though that differentiating the formula for A in terms of dA/dw and equating it to zero should give me an answer but the maths look to convoluted for such a simple answer. Any ideas of how to get the resonante frequency?

That's precisely what you must do. The equation you get is actually easy to solve.
Note that you get something over ( (wo^2-w^2)^2+(wy)^2)^(3/2). You may multiply both sides of the equation by ( (wo^2-w^2)^2+(wy)^2)^(3/2) and you are left with a simple expression equal to zero, which is then easy to solve.
 
The easy way is to see that if A is a maximum, 1/A is a mimimum, and 1/A2 is also a minimum.

Differentiating d (1/A2) / dw is easy.

BTW the formula you gave in the OP for the resonant frequency is wrong. If can't possibly be right to subtract a frequency squared and a damping corefficient squared, they don't have the same units!
 
The damping coefficient is s^-1 Rather convoluted to show. OTOH, note the equation for the position. X = A*exp(-dc*t)*cos(etc.) for the simple harmonic damped oscillator.

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