How to Find Normal Mode Frequencies for Three Masses in an Equilateral Triangle?

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The discussion revolves around finding the normal mode frequencies for three equal masses arranged in an equilateral triangle, connected by springs with a specified force constant. The original poster is particularly focused on setting up the potential energy associated with the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to establish the potential energy function but is uncertain about including all necessary terms. Other participants discuss the degrees of freedom and types of normal modes, including translations and vibrational modes. There is a question about the additional terms in the potential energy when neglecting rotation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the setup of the potential energy and discussing the characteristics of the normal modes. There is a collaborative effort to clarify the notation and the components of the potential energy function, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster expresses difficulty in projecting deviations from equilibrium onto the diagonals, indicating a potential gap in understanding the geometric setup of the problem. The discussion also notes the presence of six degrees of freedom in the system.

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Three equal masses arranged in a equilateral triangle are connected by 'springs' with force constants 'k'

the coordinates of the masses are:

mass 1 at [0, [tex]\sqrt{3}[/tex]/2*L]
mass 2 at [L/2, 0]
mass 3 at [-L/2,0]

find the normal mode frequencies.

The only part i am having trouble with is setting up the potential energy i know what to do after I have the potential energy.

so far i have

U = 1/2 * k (x_2 - x_3)^2


i know there are more terms in the potential but i am having trouble projecting the deviations from equilibrium onto the diagonals.
 
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well, there's 6 degrees of freedom, so there are 6 normal modes. 2 are translations as a whole and 1 is rotation as a whole. there are 3 vibrational mode, one of which is the "breathing" mode, and then there are 2 others.
 
neglecting all rotation what will the other terms of the potential be?
 
[tex] U=\frac{k}{2}((\vec x^{(1)}-\vec x^{(2)})^2+(\vec x^{(1)}-\vec x ^{(3)})^2+(\vec x^{(2)}-\vec x^{(3)})^2)[/tex]
 
in your notation vector x 1 is the location of the first mass [x1,y1] , x 2 second mass [x2,y2],...

right?
 
yeah
 

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