How to find one corresponding eigenvector?

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The discussion revolves around finding a corresponding eigenvector for the eigenvalue 4 of a given matrix. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to derive the eigenvector despite the textbook providing a specific answer.

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  • Participants discuss the requirement to solve the equation (A-4I)v=0 to find the eigenvector. There are inquiries about the method to find the vector and the nature of the solutions.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to solving the eigenvector equation. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of eigenvectors and the implications of non-trivial solutions. Multiple interpretations of the solution process are being examined.

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There is a mention of confusion regarding the trivial solution and the necessity of finding non-zero eigenvectors. The original poster's work does not align with the textbook's answer, leading to further questioning of assumptions and methods used.

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Homework Statement
Is lambda=4 an eigenvalue of the given matrix? If so, find one corresponding eigenvector.
Relevant Equations
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The determinant is 0, which means that A-4I has a nullspace, and there is an eigenvector with eigenvalue 4. In the textbook, the answer says "Yes, [1, 1, -1]" for this problem. But I don't know how to find the corresponding eigenvector for this problem. Below is my work.
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Math100 said:
Homework Statement:: Is lambda=4 an eigenvalue of the given matrix? If so, find one corresponding eigenvector.
Relevant Equations:: None.

The determinant is 0, which means that A-4I has a nullspace, and there is an eigenvector with eigenvalue 4. In the textbook, the answer says "Yes, [1, 1, -1]" for this problem. But I don't know how to find the corresponding eigenvector for this problem. Below is my work.
You have to find a vector ##\vec{v}\neq 0## such that ##(A-4I)\vec{v}=0##. Can you solve this equation system?
 
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How should I find the vector then?
 
Solve ##\begin{bmatrix}-1&0&-1\\2&-1&1\\-3&4&1\end{bmatrix}\cdot \begin{bmatrix}x\\y\\z\end{bmatrix}=\begin{bmatrix}0\\0\\0\end{bmatrix}## for ##x,y,z##. Then you get one or more solutions which are eigenvectors to ##4##. I don't know the other eigenvalues though.
 
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I think an easy way to remember these equations is to memorize the concept that the eigenvectors of A are the vectors that "don't change direction" when transformed by the matrix A, they only change in length. That length change is the eigenvalue for that vector. So Aν = λν. All of the equations you need (see @fresh_42) follow from this concept with some matrix algebra.
 
But I didn't get the answer from the book. As a result, I got x=y=z=0, the book says x=1, y=1, z=-1.
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You get ##x=-z## from the first row. This makes ##-2z-y+z==-y-z=0## the second row and thus ##y=-z##. Do they solve the third equation, too? And if so, how do we handle ##z##?
 
@Math100 Eigenvectors are by definition nonzero. You are looking for a solution to ##(A-4I)x=0## other than the trivial solution ##x=0.##
 
You will find, when solving for the eigenvectors, that there isn't a single (non-trivial, ν=0) solution. This is because all vectors in the same direction as an eigenvector satisfy the basic requirement that Aν=λν, since these are linear transformations ( A(kν)=kAν for any scalar k). So, we would normally arbitrarily assign a value to one component. Like x=1, for example, and then solve for the others (everyone always chooses x=1, it seems). You could express it as (1,1,-1)T, (2,2,-2)T, etc., or as (x,x,-x)T (which, of course, is x⋅(1,1,-1)T). These are all solutions.
 

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