Find eigenvalues & eigenvectors

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenvalues and eigenvectors for a given matrix, specifically focusing on the relationship between different representations of eigenvectors and the validity of a particular method for deriving them.

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  • The original poster attempts to use a method for quickly finding eigenvectors by manipulating rows of the matrix after substituting eigenvalues, questioning the equivalence of the resulting eigenvectors. Participants discuss the nature of eigenvectors being scalar multiples of each other and the implications of their order.

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Participants have provided insights into the relationship between the eigenvectors discussed, noting that they are equivalent up to a constant factor. There is acknowledgment of the method's validity, and some participants suggest verifying results by substituting eigenvalues and eigenvectors back into the matrix equation.

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There is an implicit assumption regarding the properties of eigenvectors and eigenvalues, particularly in relation to scalar multiplication and the order of eigenvectors. The original poster's method is under scrutiny, with questions about its general applicability.

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Homework Statement
Find eigenvalues & eigenvectors
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det(A-r*I) = 0
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Here's the problem along with the solution. The correct answer listed in the book for the eigenvectors are the expressions to the right (inside the blue box). To find the eigenvectors, I tried using a trick, which I don't remember where I saw, but said that one can quickly find eigenvectors (at least for simple 2x2 cases like these) by simply taking a row (of the matrix after having plugged in the eigenvalue) and shaping it such that the leftmost value is the first value for the eigenvector (with opposite sign) and the second eigenvector value is the same as the rightmost value. I heard that this is valid for either row choice... but when I do this, the answers appear to be different (hence the question mark over the inequality). So, my question is, are these eigenvectors shown in the blue box equivalent to one another? Does this trick really work? It seems to.
Thanks for your time.
 
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Sort of. Those are the same two eigenvectors up to a constant, but in opposite order.

Multiply your ##\vec v## by the constant (1 + i). As you know, any multiple of an eigenvector is still an eigenvector of the same eigenvalue.
$$(1 + i) {2 \choose {2 - 2i}} = {{2 + 2i} \choose {2(1 - i)(1+i)}} = {{2+2i} \choose 4}$$
and similarly multiply ##\vec w## by the constant (1 - i).
$$(1 - i) {2 \choose {2 + 2i}} = {{2 - 2i} \choose {2(1 + i)(1-i)}} = {{2-2i} \choose 4}$$
Since the order is reversed, so are the eigenvalues with which each is associated.
 
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Also, you can verify that your eigenvalues and eigenvectors are correct or not by plugging them into the matrix equation and determining whether ##(A - \lambda I) \vec x = \vec 0##.
 
RPinPA said:
Sort of. Those are the same two eigenvectors up to a constant, but in opposite order.

Multiply your ##\vec v## by the constant (1 + i). As you know, any multiple of an eigenvector is still an eigenvector of the same eigenvalue.
$$(1 + i) {2 \choose {2 - 2i}} = {{2 + 2i} \choose {2(1 - i)(1+i)}} = {{2+2i} \choose 4}$$
and similarly multiply ##\vec w## by the constant (1 - i).
$$(1 - i) {2 \choose {2 + 2i}} = {{2 - 2i} \choose {2(1 + i)(1-i)}} = {{2-2i} \choose 4}$$
Since the order is reversed, so are the eigenvalues with which each is associated.
Ahh, I see. Thank you
 

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