How to Find the Change of Basis Matrix for Bases B and C?

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The discussion focuses on finding the change of basis matrices P_{B \leftarrow C} and P_{C \leftarrow B} for the bases B and C in R^2. The bases are defined as B={\begin{pmatrix}3\\1\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}2\\2\end{pmatrix}} and C={\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}}. The user followed the methodology outlined in Lay's Linear Algebra (3rd edition) to derive the change of basis matrix from C to B, resulting in the matrix [[7/4, -2/4], [1/4, 2/4]]. However, confusion arose regarding the interpretation of the matrices, as the derived matrix corresponds to P_{C \leftarrow B} instead of P_{B \leftarrow C}.

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Edit complete, but it doesn't seem as though I can change the title.
The latex arrows next to the 'P' aren't showing up for me but they're supposed to be left arrows


Homework Statement


Let B and C be bases of R^2. Find the change of basis matrices P_{B \leftarrow C} and P_{C\leftarrow B}


B={\begin{pmatrix}3\\1\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}2\\2\end{pmatrix}}, C={\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}}


To find the change of basis matrix from C to B P_{B \leftarrow C} , I followed the steps in Lay's Linear Algebra book and found the coordinates of the B vectors relative to C.

So I solved this system:

\begin{pmatrix}3\\1\end{pmatrix}=r_1\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}+r_2\begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}2\\2\end{pmatrix}=s_1\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}+s_2\begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}

where r, s are real numbers.

Doing so, I got the 2x2 matrix

[7/4 -2/4]
[1/4 2/4]

(can't get matrices to work in latex)

But in the solutions, this is the change of basis matrix for going from C to B, i.e. P_{C\leftarrow B}. Have I misinterpreted something? The steps I'm referring to are based on this theorem on page 273 of the 3rd edition of the text by Lay:

Let B=[b_1,..,b_n] and C=[c_1,..,c_n] be bases of a vector space V. Then there is a unique nxn matrix P_{B \leftarrow C} such that [x]_c=P_{B \leftarrow C}[x]_B. The columns of P_{B \leftarrow C} are the C-coordinate vectors of the vectors in the basis B. That is, P_{B \leftarrow C}=[[b_1]_c...[b_n]_c]
 
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chipotleaway said:
Edit complete, but it doesn't seem as though I can change the title.
The latex arrows next to the 'P' aren't showing up for me but they're supposed to be left arrows


Homework Statement


Let B and C be bases of R^2. Find the change of basis matrices P_{B \leftarrow C} and P_{C\leftarrow B}


B={\begin{pmatrix}3\\1\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}2\\2\end{pmatrix}}, C={\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}, \begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}}


To find the change of basis matrix from C to B P_{B \leftarrow C} , I followed the steps in Lay's Linear Algebra book and found the coordinates of the B vectors relative to C.

So I solved this system:

\begin{pmatrix}3\\1\end{pmatrix}=r_1\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}+r_2\begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}
\begin{pmatrix}2\\2\end{pmatrix}=s_1\begin{pmatrix}1\\0\end{pmatrix}+s_2\begin{pmatrix}5\\4\end{pmatrix}

where r, s are real numbers.

Doing so, I got the 2x2 matrix

[7/4 -2/4]
[1/4 2/4]

(can't get matrices to work in latex)

But in the solutions, this is the change of basis matrix for going from C to B, i.e. P_{C\leftarrow B}. Have I misinterpreted something? The steps I'm referring to are based on this theorem on page 273 of the 3rd edition of the text by Lay:

If you want a matrix like this:
\pmatrix{7/4 & -2/4 \\ 1/4 & 2/4}
use the "\ p matrix" command (remove spaces!) To get the above I just entered "\ p matrix{ 7/4 & -2/4 \\ 1/4 & 2/4}". In LaTeX/TeX, the '&' separates elements in the same row and the "\\" starts a new row.

Anyway, you are encountering the classic confusion between the matrix that changes the basis vs. the matrix that changes the ccomponents. So, if {u1, u2} and {v1,v2} are two bases (each ui or vi is a two-dimensional vector), then if
\pmatrix{u_1\\u_2} = \pmatrix{a&b\\c&d} \pmatrix{v_1\\v_2}
and if ##x = x_1 u_1 + x_2 u_2 = y_1 v_1 + y_2 v_2## we have
(y_1 \;y_2) = (x_1 \; x_2) \pmatrix{a &b\\c &d}
 
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chipotleaway said:
Edit complete, but it doesn't seem as though I can change the title.
I can!

I'm a bit too busy right now to be able to help you with learning to solve this problem, but I'm not too busy to help with changing the title.
 
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