How to find the magnetic field and magnetic force due to a solenoid loop

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field and magnetic force due to a solenoid loop using the Biot-Savart Law and Ampere's Law. The user correctly identifies that the magnetic field outside the solenoid is zero and attempts to compute the field at a point near a rectangular coil with N turns and current I2. The derived expression for the magnetic field is B = \frac{\mu_0nI_2}{2}\cdot \frac{l^2}{(l^2+R^2)^{1/2}}\hat z. Additionally, the importance of vector relations in determining the force on a current-carrying wire in an external magnetic field is emphasized.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Biot-Savart Law for magnetic field calculations
  • Familiarity with Ampere's Law and its implications
  • Knowledge of vector calculus for force calculations
  • Basic principles of electromagnetism and current-carrying conductors
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation and applications of the Biot-Savart Law
  • Explore Ampere's Law in various geometrical configurations
  • Learn about the Lorentz force and its implications for current-carrying wires
  • Investigate the effects of magnetic fields on different conductor shapes and orientations
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, electrical engineering, and anyone involved in magnetic field analysis and electromagnetic theory.

Davidllerenav
Messages
424
Reaction score
14
Homework Statement
For the rectangular coil of ##N## turns and with
the dimensions shown in figure 1,
calculate the magnetic field B that occurs
at a solid conductor point of length ##l##
at a distance d from the coil. Consider that
The current flowing through the coil is ##I_2##.
Relevant Equations
Biot-Savart Law: ##\vec B= \frac{\mu_0}{2\pi}\int \frac{d\vec l \times \hat r}{r^2}##
1574133101522.png

I'm not so sure how to begin with this problem. I was thinking of usign superposition. I think that the field on the conductor due to the parallel segments of the coil is zero, since Ampere's Law tells us that the field outside the solenoid is zero, right? For the perpendicular segments, I used the field of a ring of radius ##R## at a point a distance ##d## from its center and I integrated, getting ##\vec B= \frac{\mu_0nI_2}{2\pi}\int_0^l \frac{R^2dz}{(R^2+d^2)^{3/2}}=\frac{\mu_0nI_2}{2}\cdot \frac{l^2}{(l^2+R^2)^{1/2}}\hat z##. Am I correct?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Davidllerenav said:
Homework Statement: For the rectangular coil of ##N## turns and with
the dimensions shown in figure 1,
calculate the magnetic field B that occurs
at a solid conductor point of length ##l##
at a distance d from the coil. Consider that
The current flowing through the coil is ##I_2##.
Homework Equations: Biot-Savart Law: ##\vec B= \frac{\mu_0}{2\pi}\int \frac{d\vec l \times \hat r}{r^2}##

View attachment 253023
I'm not so sure how to begin with this problem. I was thinking of usign superposition. I think that the field on the conductor due to the parallel segments of the coil is zero, since Ampere's Law tells us that the field outside the solenoid is zero, right? For the perpendicular segments, I used the field of a ring of radius ##R## at a point a distance ##d## from its center and I integrated, getting ##\vec B= \frac{\mu_0nI_2}{2\pi}\int_0^l \frac{R^2dz}{(R^2+d^2)^{3/2}}=\frac{\mu_0nI_2}{2}\cdot \frac{l^2}{(l^2+R^2)^{1/2}}\hat z##. Am I correct?
Biot-Savart is the general law for finding the B field due to arbitrary current distributions.
You want the force exerted on a wire carring current due to an externally applied B field (like that of a second wire, hint hint). This is a vector relation so if for example the B field is generated by a second wire you need to consider the relative orientation between the two wires.
What you're looking for is in every intro physics text. Better yet, you can derive it yourself by starting with the expression for the Lorentz force F = qv x B and yes, combining with Ampere's law.. Forces can be added (vectorially of course).
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: BvU

Similar threads

  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
1K
Replies
3
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
715
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
1K