How to find the straight tangent line?

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The discussion revolves around finding the straight tangent line related to a tangent plane in a mathematical context, specifically focusing on the gradient and equations of planes and lines.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the tangent plane and the straight tangent line, questioning whether they are the same in two dimensions and discussing the implications of their definitions.

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Participants have identified errors in the initial calculations of the tangent plane and are clarifying the definitions and relationships between tangent lines and planes. There is ongoing exploration of these concepts without a clear consensus on the terminology used.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct form of the tangent plane equation and its relationship to the tangent line, as well as the dimensionality of these concepts.

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Homework Statement
Find the straight tangent line at (2,-1) to the level curve of f(x,y)=x^2-y^2
Relevant Equations
f(x,y)=x^2-y^2
Point: (2,-1)
I have solved the gradient:

gradf(2,-1)=(4,2)

and have the tangent plane:

4x+2y+3=0

Somehow the answer is:

3=2x+y

And i really don´t understand why.
 
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Helloooo said:
and have the tangent plane:

4x+2y+3=0
No you don’t. Inserting (2,-1) in the LHS gives 4*2+2(-1) = 8-2 = 6 so the required point is not on that plane.
 
Orodruin said:
No you don’t. Inserting (2,-1) in the LHS gives 4*2+2(-1) = 8-2 = 6 so the required point is not on that plane.
Firstly i noticed an error in my writing.
The tangent plane i got was 4x+2y-3=0.
I´m sorry for that
So i redid the tangent plane to
4x+2y-6=0
However i still don´t know how to fint the straight tangent line.
Thank you
 
Helloooo said:
However i still don´t know how to fint the straight tangent line.
That's it, right there:
Helloooo said:
4x+2y-6=0
 
Orodruin said:
That's it, right there:
Does that mean that the tangent plane and straight tangent line is the same?
If so, why are they called differently or is it just in this particulary problem?
 
Helloooo said:
Does that mean that the tangent plane and straight tangent line is the same?
If so, why are they called differently or is it just in this particulary problem?
In two dimensions, a tangent line and the tangent plane are the same thing. In n dimensions the tangent plane has n-1 dimensions. It is a more general concept because it is not restricted to two dimensions.
 
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Orodruin said:
In two dimensions, a tangent line and the tangent plane are the same thing. In n dimensions the tangent plane has n-1 dimensions. It is a more general concept because it is not restricted to two dimensions.
I see, thank you so much for your help!
 

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