Find eqn for "normal" line to the tangent- folium

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The problem involves finding the equation of the normal line to the tangent line of a folium defined by the equation 2x³ + 2y³ - 9xy = 0 at the point (2,1). The original poster expresses difficulty with the concept of the normal line in relation to the tangent line.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the definition of the normal line, questioning whether it is simply the tangent line itself. Other participants discuss the geometric relationship between the tangent and normal lines, particularly focusing on the concept of perpendicularity and slopes.

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Participants are exploring the relationship between the tangent and normal lines, with some guidance provided on how to find the slope of the normal line based on the tangent's slope. There is an ongoing discussion about the correctness of the tangent line equation and its implications for finding the normal line.

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The original poster has not confirmed the accuracy of the tangent line equation provided in their attempt, which may affect the subsequent calculations for the normal line.

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Homework Statement


Back for more questions. This section has been pretty tricky.

The graph of a folium with equation ##2x^3+2y^3-9xy=0## is given.

Find the equation for the tangent line at the pont ##(2,1)##

Find the equation of the normal line to the tangent line in the last question at the point (2,1).

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From part a, the tangent line at the point ##(2,1)## is ##y=\frac{5}{4}x-\frac{3}{2}##

Now by "normal" line, I assume that the question is talking about the folium itself.
But since we're talking about the line at that point, wouldn't the equation for the normal line at that exact point just be the tangent line? Otherwise, how could we determine how far out to choose our x values?
 
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A normal is something perpendicular. So you are looking for the line through ##(2,1)## which is perpendicular to the tangent. Do you know what the slope of such a perpendicular line is, given that the tangent has slope ##\frac{5}{4}\,?##
 
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From geometry that would just be the reciprocal right?
 
opus said:
From geometry that would just be the reciprocal right?
In a way, yes. But it is negative, since ##\frac{5}{4}>0##. It is as if ##x## and ##y## axis were swapped. The formula for an angle between two vectors ##\vec{v}=(v_1,v_2)\; , \;\vec{w}=(w_1,w_2)## is
$$
\cos \sphericalangle (\vec{v},\vec{w}) = \dfrac{\vec{v}\cdot \vec{w}}{|\vec{v}|\cdot |\vec{w}|}
$$
where the product is ##\vec{v}\cdot \vec{w} = v_1w_1+v_2w_2## and ##|\vec{v}|=\sqrt{v_1^2+v_2^2}##.

Here we have ##\vec{v}=(1,\frac{5}{4})## and the cosine of ##90°## is zero.
 
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So then we would have the equation for the normal line is ##y=\frac{-4}{5}x+\frac{13}{5}##?
 
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So then we would have the equation for the normal line is ##y=\frac{-4}{5}x+\frac{13}{5}##?
Yes - as long as part a) is correct, which I haven't checked.
 
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Ok cool stuff! Thanks again!
 

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