How to find the vertex of G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t)

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The discussion revolves around finding the vertex of the quadratic function G(t) = 1/2(t^2 - 4t). Participants explore the properties of the function, including its domain, intercepts, and vertex form.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of the vertex formula -b/(2a) and its relation to the roots of the quadratic. There is also a suggestion to complete the square to find the vertex. Some participants question the interpretation of the vertex and its coordinates.

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Several participants have provided insights into the vertex's characteristics and the relationship between different forms of the quadratic equation. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the vertex form and the calculations involved, with no clear consensus yet on the final coordinates of the vertex.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings regarding the vertex's coordinates and the effects of the leading coefficient on the vertex form. There is also a focus on ensuring clarity in the definitions of intercepts and their significance in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since this is a polynomial it's all real numbers for domain
y-int:
G(0)=1/2(0^2-4(0)
y-int=(0,0)

x-int:
0=1/2(t^2-4t)
0=(1/2)t(t-4)
Not sure...

And not sure about the vertex. I know the formula -b/2a but how do i find those two points for the graph thanks
 
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What exactly are you asking ?
And what do you mean with x-int ? intercept on the x -axis ? well, with your y-int you already found (0,0) which is one of the roots.
And if you can write 0=(1/2)t(t-4) , you can see that this is the case if x = 0 (already found) ##\vee## x = 4.

You know the formula -b/(2a). It has to do with the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0 and represents the sum average of the roots. In your case 4.

Could the vertex you mention be the extreme of G ?

[edit] not sum but average
 
Niaboc67 said:

Homework Statement


G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since this is a polynomial it's all real numbers for domain
y-int:
G(0)=1/2(0^2-4(0)
y-int=(0,0)

x-int:
0=1/2(t^2-4t)
0=(1/2)t(t-4)
Not sure...

And not sure about the vertex. I know the formula -b/2a but how do i find those two points for the graph thanks

Instead of being fixated on some formula for the vertex, what is characteristic about the vertex of the parabola?
 
Would I have to complete the square to find the vertex? like so

G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t)
G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t+4) -4
G(t)=1/2(t-2)^2 -4
Vertex form: y=a(x-h)^2 +k
and vertex is (h,k)
so (2,-4)
 
You've done it ! Well done. Can you make the link with the -b/(2a) formula ? If you can, you've really mastered the subject.
 
I think. The vertex is actually (2,-2) I double checked it. Is that because when I have the form G(t)=1/2(t-2)^2 -4 I have to take the 1/2 out and times that with -4 to output -2? so then (2,-2). Is -b/(2a) connection between taking the form G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t+4) so A=1,B=-4,C=4. So I plug in 4/(2(1) = 2 that's the X and then the y-intercept is G(0)=1/2(0^2-4(0)+4) so then 1/2*4/1=(0,2) and put the 2 in for the x and keep the 2 for the Y?
 
Sorry I forgot about the 1/2. You're right.

In writing G in 'vertex form' you found the vertex directly.

ax2 + bx + c in 'vertex form' would be something like ##a (x - {-b\over 2a} )^2 - \left (({-b\over 2a})^2 - c\right )## (*)

To form G, the 1/2 can serve as a. Then b is -2 and c is zero . So -b/(2a) is 2, as you found.


(*) One step further you have this infamous

'if b^2 > 4ac this can be written as
$$
a \left ( \left ( x - {-b\over 2a} \right )^2 - \left ( \sqrt { \left (\left ({-b\over 2a}\right )^2 - {c\over a} \ \right )}\ \right )^2\ \ \right ) = \\

a\ \left ( x + {b\over 2a} + {\sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} \over 2a } \right ) \; \left ( x + {b\over 2a} - {\sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} \over 2a } \right ) = \\
a\ \left ( x + {b + \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} \over 2a } \right ) \; \left ( x + {b - \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} \over 2a } \right )
$$
that will solve all quadratic equations in any career :smile:
 
I just need to confirm this here since I have G(t)=1/2(t-2)^2 -4 why does the -4 become -2? does it multiply with 1/2?
Thank you
 
G(t)=1/2(t^2-4t)
G(t)=1/2 ##\Bigl (## (t^2-4t+4) -4 ##\Bigr )##
G(t)=1/2(t-2)^2 -2
 

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